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Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by green-bottle »

mayankkaizen wrote: post #93
green-bottle wrote: post #5

Like all other internet bans in India I doubt this one will have any teeth. Everyone has a "Free" VPN app that they use to bypass these restrictions. Most people own Android phones where they can sideload apps downloaded from some third party APK website (of questionable trustworthiness) iPhones have negligible penetration in India so are not even a part of the equation.

This is typical HN mentality to assume that other people are comparatively well versed in technical aspects. 99% indians (may be a little exaggerated figure) don't have any clue about VPN. Most don't even know how to side-install any app. So government actions do have some significance.

My aunt and mother use a bunch of websites I've never heard of for free streaming of movies and TV shows. They may not be the most informed about potential hidden costs of these services, but they are definitely resourceful in finding them. I think you overestimate the difficulty of using technology. All you need to do is learn to type "How do I get $web_service for free?" in the search bar.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by sudosysgen »

mayankkaizen wrote: post #93
green-bottle wrote: post #5

Like all other internet bans in India I doubt this one will have any teeth. Everyone has a "Free" VPN app that they use to bypass these restrictions. Most people own Android phones where they can sideload apps downloaded from some third party APK website (of questionable trustworthiness) iPhones have negligible penetration in India so are not even a part of the equation.

This is typical HN mentality to assume that other people are comparatively well versed in technical aspects. 99% indians (may be a little exaggerated figure) don't have any clue about VPN. Most don't even know how to side-install any app. So government actions do have some significance.

Well, this is typical HN mentality to assume that users are clueless.

In Morocco, people would just go to the Souk and have a guy do it for them. Same in most countries of the sort.

Also, on android, you literally just have to download the .APK and follow the on-screen instructions.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by ffpip »

oblio wrote: post #131
ffpip wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I meant security/privacy from the company in question. Jio. e2ee in JioChat was just not even implemented. They just copied whatsapp.

That's kind of bad, but I think that for regular users, it's a non-feature. They don't care. They only care about traffic not being snooped in along the way. They will trust the messenger company. I'd imagine JioChat is encrypted in transit, isn't it?

Yes. I think. I have not downloaded and used it.

The reason e2ee is necessary in india is people share all things online. Especially in chat. Passports, certificates, health related stuff. We are very open online.

For example, here is a guy publishing his goverentment issued caste certificate. On twitter. https://twitter.com/BhainsdehiWale/status/118002364906923212...

They do not know that anybody can see that photo. They don't know encryption,privacy and stuff. Internet is 1-2 years old here (for the masses)

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by dydesai »

actuator wrote: post #95

I think this might be related to the Tibetan origin special forces soldier of Indian Army being killed in some recent altercation with PRC on their northern border.[1] I do think India is going on a slippery slope now. With Tiktok, one can even make a case of it being used to manipulate sentiments and being used for propoganda, but that argument can hardly be made for a game like PubG. It also brings into question wh…

The ban is most likely due to chinese encroachment on indian border

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by closetnerd »

eggsnbacon1 wrote: post #136
actuator wrote: post #95

I think this might be related to the Tibetan origin special forces soldier of Indian Army being killed in some recent altercation with PRC on their northern border.[1] I do think India is going on a slippery slope now. With Tiktok, one can even make a case of it being used to manipulate sentiments and being used for propoganda, but that argument can hardly be made for a game like PubG. It also brings into question wh…

India and China aren't exactly friends, I think its pretty reasonable to limit business ties of any kind. A sovereign nation has the right to ban any import, are you disputing that?

I'm struggling to understand the intent of your comment. In no way is it about "not having the right". I took it to mean the implications of a souring relationship - which certainly isn't the "right direction" to see relationships evolve.

China and India are economic giants - it'd would be preferable that they not see each other as not friends.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by ubermon »

seshagiric wrote: post #22
throwaway4good wrote: post #14

Where is the Indian opposition on this? Are they fully behind Modi's nationalism? There is a raging pandemic. Massive recession. Potential war with China. Internet bans. Crackdown in Kashmir. There has to be some questions?

Modi has nationalist agenda but I doubt this one falls under it. Given the consistent Chinese aggression, I guess any other political party would have done the same.

Curious on what is the general view of Indian population, twitter is full of trolls and paid campaign. From what I gather in chinese forum, I don't think any one believes China was the aggressive side, their most aggression is on getting Taiwan/ROC back.

It is funny to see on twitter some people accusing other side's aggression yet boasting about victory of getting further across LAC.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by sudosysgen »

gpm wrote: post #4
samfisher83 wrote: post #2

What if they ban like xiaomi or one plus. Those are like the most popular phones in India.

I mean, I guess that would be a great benefit to the non-Chinese competitors then, Samsung, Google, Apple, etc. I don't see that this would be hugely disruptive to the country. Is there some reason you think it would be?

Xiaomi phones are better and cheaper than Samsung, Google, and certainly Apple equivalents. The Mi 10 Ultra is ~780$ and is just flat out better than a 1200$ phone from Samsung, including the best camera of any phone bar none.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by ffpip »

ignoramous wrote: post #88
ffpip wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't need a VPN here in India. Cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 or DNS over https is enough.

Or use open source apps like Nebulo [0] and https://getintra.org [0] https://git.frostnerd.com/PublicAndroidApps/smokescreen / https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.frostnerd....

What's the difference? Why do you need an app?

It's built into android.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by addicted »

actuator wrote: post #95

I think this might be related to the Tibetan origin special forces soldier of Indian Army being killed in some recent altercation with PRC on their northern border.[1] I do think India is going on a slippery slope now. With Tiktok, one can even make a case of it being used to manipulate sentiments and being used for propoganda, but that argument can hardly be made for a game like PubG. It also brings into question wh…

The ruling government has destroyed the Indian economy with its arbitrary decisions. And sometimes the get the judiciary to chip in as well.

The first real disaster to the Indian economy was the billions in retroactive taxes that were applied to telecoms. And then the attempt made by the government to break through the corporate firewalls and extract that money from foreign parents. That hit FDI immediately.

That was followed by demonetization, extremely poor rollout of GST, a terribly executed lockdown and subsequent reopening, and now the arbitrary control over Chinese companies when China is probably the largest private investor in India right now. All these things are hurting India with little benefit to show for, other than jingoistic support for the ruling party.

India is yet another example of “ First” parties coming in and taking actions which undermine the absolute fundamentals of what the country is and damaging it and its citizens in so many ways.

Make life terrible for your citizens and blame China while looting your citizens left right and center is apparently a winning strategy in multiple countries.

Re: India bans PUBG, Baidu and more than 100 apps linked to China

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Post by ignoramous »

ffpip wrote: post #148
ignoramous wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or use open source apps like Nebulo [0] and https://getintra.org [0] https://git.frostnerd.com/PublicAndroidApps/smokescreen / https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.frostnerd....

What's the difference? Why do you need an app? It's built into android.

> It's built into android.

Private DNS is available since Android 9 (or around 40% of over 2B+ devices).

Nebulo works with Android 5+ and Intra with Android 4+ (close to a 100% of all Androids out there).

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