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Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by Cognitron »

throwaway894345 wrote: post #133
Cognitron wrote: post #131

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I worked remotely from Europe for about two months last year, and spent a few weeks in Spain. I just got a travel visa. It didn't even occur to me that it would be an issue. I think they're more worried about you overstaying your visa than working on your laptop. Just make sure you have a return ticket, or a train ticket out of every country you visit. I got grilled by the immigration guy in Ireland because I bought…

My concern was regarding staying for longer than permitted by a travel visa, nor that people would object to me working in a Starbucks.

Ah, yeah that's a different story if you want to stay long term.

Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by tonyarkles »

nogabebop23 wrote: post #120
dmurray wrote: post #65

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The disadvantage is that you may become a burden on the host country - you cost more in public services than you bring in revenue. This could happen if the host country supplies plentiful public services funded mainly by income taxes rather than consumption taxes. Or simply if you lost your job and turned to begging or crime, and the host country finds it expensive or politically difficult to deport you. These are pr…

even countries with lots of publicly funded services usually exclude tourists. For example, a visitor to Canada would either not be allowed to take advantage of many services (ex: Employmnet Insurance / Welfare) or get billed (Healthcare) although it would be unlikely to be refused service in the later if you could not pay. In countries like Barbados the divide between citizens and visitors is even more stark. Deport…

Something to keep in mind regarding Canadian health care, if you’re an American up here with no travel insurance: it is still very affordable. I suspect surgeries and things like that would be expensive, but routine procedures are very very affordable.

As an example, I moved and forgot to renew my health card. I fell in the yard and sprained my wrist. Head to a clinic, they warn me that I have to pay for the visit, but I can send the receipt to SaskHealth to get reimbursed for it when I renew my card. See the doctor, he wants to do x-rays. Go to the place next door for digital x-rays, come back, and see the doctor again. He confirms it’s just a sprain and nothing broken. Awesome. Head to the counter on my way out to pay, expecting to be out a good chunk of cash for a while. $60 total for the visit and the x-rays.

Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by oh_sigh »

perl4ever wrote: post #127
oh_sigh wrote: post #103

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Well that's rich, coming from people who can't even stick with one system and have a weird mix of imperial, metric, and various archaic units - which is IMHO worse than just being on imperial.

That description applies to both the US and UK, perhaps others, and it's hard to be unaware when you're connected to a global computer network. Just google "site:uk mpg". "Put simply, all MPG does is tell you approximately how far your vehicle will travel based upon a single UK gallon, which equates to approximately 4.55 litres of fuel" This particular thing, I'm aware of because there is perennial confusion over com…

That's not the mixing I'm talking about. American gallons and imperial gallons being defined differently is rarely an issue since gallons are rarely exchanged between America and the UK (in a relative usage sense). If America happened to call their unit gabbons, this confusion wouldn't exist.

My point is more about how in the UK you might give a measure in one system, but then increasing the measure you might convert into a different system entirely. e.g. If you ask an Englishman how far apart you should stand for social distancing, he might say 2 meters. But if you ask him how far it is from London to Brighton, he might say it is 50 miles.

Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by aunty_helen »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #140
aunty_helen wrote: post #115

"Digital nomad visas" are starting to become more common as countries realise they bring in low impact wealthy online based 'tourists.' Currently, it's very possible to travel on a 3-6 month basis between countries under tourist visas and to work remotely in a somewhat illegal fashion. These nomad visas are an attempt to capture that market offering legitimacy for a fee. Unfortunately, Barbados hasn't really hit the…

Yeah seems there needs to be something provided in return. Healthcare probably pays off itself compared to US.

I don't think you're going to save on healthcare with visas like this. You're still required to be fully covered with your own health insurance as one of the visa conditions.

This removes the possibility of you being a burden on their public health system, which is common amongst not just these new 'nomad' visas but also the working holiday visas that have been around for decades.

Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by perl4ever »

oh_sigh wrote: post #143
perl4ever wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That description applies to both the US and UK, perhaps others, and it's hard to be unaware when you're connected to a global computer network. Just google "site:uk mpg". "Put simply, all MPG does is tell you approximately how far your vehicle will travel based upon a single UK gallon, which equates to approximately 4.55 litres of fuel" This particular thing, I'm aware of because there is perennial confusion over com…

That's not the mixing I'm talking about. American gallons and imperial gallons being defined differently is rarely an issue since gallons are rarely exchanged between America and the UK (in a relative usage sense). If America happened to call their unit gabbons, this confusion wouldn't exist. My point is more about how in the UK you might give a measure in one system, but then increasing the measure you might convert…

>gallons are rarely exchanged between America and the UK

I didn't go looking for an example; it's one that I've run into a lot over the years, because people spontaneously ask why, over and over, American cars get much worse MPG than elsewhere. Not realizing the gallons are smaller.

Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by dzhiurgis »

aunty_helen wrote: post #144
dzhiurgis wrote: post #140

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Yeah seems there needs to be something provided in return. Healthcare probably pays off itself compared to US.

I don't think you're going to save on healthcare with visas like this. You're still required to be fully covered with your own health insurance as one of the visa conditions. This removes the possibility of you being a burden on their public health system, which is common amongst not just these new 'nomad' visas but also the working holiday visas that have been around for decades.

Maybe. I'm guessing health insurance is still going to be cheaper to buy in any country outside US. A lot of time it's not worth to get insurance at all and just pay out of your pocket (because you aren't ripped off by hospitals).

But going back to point - why would anyone get this permit when they can stay on tourist visa. I guess complacency is one reason.

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Post by EE84M3i »

paranoidrobot wrote: post #112
EE84M3i wrote: post #46

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>They specifically excluded time-limited visas Even if the time-limit is years at a time?

Yep. Because you're not a permanent resident of that country.

Wow! that's interesting. That significantly changes my view on the take that "only the US taxes overseas citizens" that I've heard quite a lot.

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Post by throwaway894345 »

brm wrote: post #136
throwaway894345 wrote: post #61

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> Have something to contribute. Be able to support yourself. Don't compete for an in country job and any country should welcome your residence/citizenship. I think agree with this, but I'm not sure what this looks like apart from "remote employment". How do you not compete for an in-country job without being employed remotely? Even if you're a self-employed plumber, for example, you're still competing for a job in yo…

If you design and sell tshirts globally on the internet or freelance copy edit for clients in and out of country or exhibit and sell your art internationally these are all sorts of things that are not in competition with local employment but currently have limited movement and residency options. They're not pure examples but I think they work for what people are typically concerned with when it comes to immigration a…

Fair enough, I was categorizing that as “working remotely”, but I see your point.

I’d be curious to hear from the people who downvoted me though.

Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by rhapsodic »

This article from 1998 is about a guy who set up a facility on Barbados where coders from around the world could work (offshore) for his US clients.

https://www.inc.com/magazine/19980101/852.html

I'm shadowbanned, so if anyone who sees it cares to post the link, please do.

Re: Barbados introduces plan to allow visitors to work remotely there for a year

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Post by pault »

dominotw wrote: post #104
jsjohnst wrote: post #92

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Reread their post again, there is no mention of lying about their address to their employer. Based on your other comments, it seems you assume that all employers wouldn’t maintain a salary if someone moves, which isn’t true (yes, it’s common for employers to adjust salaries for that reason, but it’s not an automatic given).

Really shocked by this. I had no idea there are employers who doesn't adjust your salary from US salary if you move to an entirely different country. all the examples i know of like gitlab, mozilla ect adjust it to local country comp. anyone know if such an employer actually exists in US?

I have worked for several small startups in Seattle and the bay area that didn't say anything about me being in Brazil, Thailand, and Belize. In each case I was earning around $120k/yr on salary.
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