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Linux PinePhone has physical kill switches for its cameras, mic, data, BT, Wi-Fi

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Re: Linux PinePhone has physical kill switches for its cameras, mic, data, BT, Wi-Fi

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Post by RealStickman_ »

blihp wrote: post #112
tpxl wrote: post #59

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How is the battery life? On UBPorts a few weeks ago I got about 8 hours standby, which truly is atrocious. I would probably switch to it being my daily driver if I can get 3 days standby on a distro.

A huge recent improvement is support for Crust firmware ( https://github.com/crust-firmware/crust ) which should get you 12-40 hours of standby (the low end is with wifi and cellular on, the high end is with them turned off. A day to a day and a half is the best I'm seeing) That just happened in the past month on most distros. Even with that installed and enabled, there is still significant room for improvement on po…

Wasn't it close to 100h with the modem turned off?

Re: Linux PinePhone has physical kill switches for its cameras, mic, data, BT, Wi-Fi

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Post by kop316 »

gardaani wrote: post #137
kop316 wrote: post #37

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I have it in addition to my Android phone. I am actually really impressed on how well it works (I use Mobian). Email, maps, calendar, and web browsing all work. The camera sort of but not really works. The only thing stopping me from using it as a daily driver is MMS: https://sr.ht/~anteater/mms-stack/ Ubuntu Touch seems to be the closest to be able to have MMS (it uses Ofono,all of the other distros seem to use Mode…

Sailfish OS supports MMS. I've been using Sailfish for years without issues in MMS.

Heh, interesting. Even on the Pinephone? I know Ubuntu Touch supports MMS but does not on the Pinephone. Same with Glodroid (the Android Port to Pinephone).

I have been doing some work with MMS on it recently: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mobile-broadband/ModemManager...

I don't think it's a far off as a lot of folks thought.

Re: Linux PinePhone has physical kill switches for its cameras, mic, data, BT, Wi-Fi

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Post by blihp »

RealStickman_ wrote: post #141
blihp wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A huge recent improvement is support for Crust firmware ( https://github.com/crust-firmware/crust ) which should get you 12-40 hours of standby (the low end is with wifi and cellular on, the high end is with them turned off. A day to a day and a half is the best I'm seeing) That just happened in the past month on most distros. Even with that installed and enabled, there is still significant room for improvement on po…

Wasn't it close to 100h with the modem turned off?

That was reported but I've never seen anything close to that even with all wireless turned off. This could be due to other power saving issues on Mobian... I just don't know yet.

Re: Linux PinePhone has physical kill switches for its cameras, mic, data, BT, Wi-Fi

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Post by glglwty »

syshum wrote: post #77
kop316 wrote: post #41

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With the Librem Phone, the extra money is also paying for the development of the software ecosystem. I would argue that's worth the investment. For reference, a lot of the Pinephone distros are using the software developed by Purism. I am not saying that's bad, thats the whole spirit of open source!

PinePhone appears to come with PostmarketOS, and they give a small amount of every sale to PostmarketOS. Other than PureOS what other "pinephone distros" are using Purism Software? On top of that, how much of "Purism Software" is upstream linux?

I think they upstreamed patches to gnome and wlroots

Re: Linux PinePhone has physical kill switches for its cameras, mic, data, BT, Wi-Fi

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Post by gardaani »

kop316 wrote: post #142
gardaani wrote: post #137

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Sailfish OS supports MMS. I've been using Sailfish for years without issues in MMS.

Heh, interesting. Even on the Pinephone? I know Ubuntu Touch supports MMS but does not on the Pinephone. Same with Glodroid (the Android Port to Pinephone). I have been doing some work with MMS on it recently: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mobile-broadband/ModemManager... I don't think it's a far off as a lot of folks thought.

Sorry, I don't know about PinePhone. It may not work.

Re: Linux PinePhone has physical kill switches for its cameras, mic, data, BT, Wi-Fi

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Post by RealStickman_ »

blihp wrote: post #143
RealStickman_ wrote: post #141

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Wasn't it close to 100h with the modem turned off?

That was reported but I've never seen anything close to that even with all wireless turned off. This could be due to other power saving issues on Mobian... I just don't know yet.

I'll have to test it with my Pinephone. I thought I had it lying next to me in standby for multiple days, so more than 40h at least.

Re: Linux PinePhone has physical kill switches for its cameras, mic, data, BT, Wi-Fi

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Post by zatop »

davidhyde wrote: post #131
zatop wrote: post #129

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Yes this is totally true, I should've been more precise. There are two parts : 'Phoc' and 'Posh'. Phoc is the Wayland compositor (Wlroots & C), Posh is the launcher UI (GTK). Phosh is just "an app" (with special privileges to talk to Phoc). All it does is display app icons and windows thumbnails (which are not actual live windows but just screenshots of the apps (like on Android)) it does not composite windows, it do…

Very interesting, thanks! I wish there were more videos focusing on UI latency and snappiness for the Librem 5 but all you see are "feature" videos. It's hard to tell if the phone is laggy (finger move to eyeball time) or not.

Once hardware acceleration is enabled it will be very snappy :) : https://social.librem.one/@dos/104218666011152589

Re: Linux PinePhone has physical kill switches for its cameras, mic, data, BT, Wi-Fi

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Post by kop316 »

gardaani wrote: post #145
kop316 wrote: post #142

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Heh, interesting. Even on the Pinephone? I know Ubuntu Touch supports MMS but does not on the Pinephone. Same with Glodroid (the Android Port to Pinephone). I have been doing some work with MMS on it recently: https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mobile-broadband/ModemManager... I don't think it's a far off as a lot of folks thought.

Sorry, I don't know about PinePhone. It may not work.

What do you use for it?
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