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Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

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post #122

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not a reply. but at the bottom p1 (194 wld's ncbe) (194 countrys of the world map.) 194 recognized countrys in the new world order. dec 71 UN meeting investigate. sep 74 UN meeting investigate. re dec UN meeting investigate. E is used as a statement ending. its not code but personalized info. also look up compounding intrest and sinking bonds. 99.84.8 is a intrest table rate at 7%. 99.84% at 8 years

Interesting. I was looking at the letter strings as possible penny stock symbols

can there be an connection between "194 WLD'S" and McCormick adress at 194 Orchard Dr, Belleville. At the corner with "West Blvd"

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

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We know that he's had this "language" since he was a child so I'm going to go out on a limb here (and introduce no small measure of my own bias) and guess its not a cerebral cipher that will easily be unraveled by simple frequency of note correlation. I've likely got a touch of Asperger's myself and I know I have a bigger touch of synesthesia. I remember vividly during my childhood certain words being an explosion of…

> Is there a way to just output the letters as a stream of phonyms? After noticing the frequency of NCBE, I focused on these three lines from the first document: (FLRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE) (CDNSE PRSE ONS*E 74 NCBE) (PR+SE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) They seem pronounceable in a sort of pig-latin style - "Flur-say pur-say ohn-day 71 nick-bay" > although its tough to say "oranger than orange with a texture like crumpled sandp…

I think You are all digging into this a little too Deep. Though We know little about this Fellow, We do know He was a High School drop out turned Bum. Again, I think "penny stock symbols", "compounding intrest and sinking bonds", "new world order conspiracy theories", and even simple mathematical algorithms can be ruled out here. I'll have to agree with the "pig-latin style""phonetic shorthand" idea.

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

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When i first attempt a cyrptoquote I stick with familiar terms, vowels in particular and repeating letter such as "RCNNBSE" could be "tallest" because of the repeating NN...then work off of that. Put enough familiar words and letters for "RCNNBSE" together and try to decipher. It sounds like he(she) is describing a location. either but landmarks or directional bearing 71 NCBE, 74 NCBE, 75 NCBE... 71 west (east perhaps) 74 west (east perhaps) 75 west (east perhaps)

194 WLD'S NCBE 194 west

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#144

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Well over half the time E is used it is preceded by the letter S. It seems E is only used with very few letter preceding it. BE, LE, RE, TE and SE

not a reply. but at the bottom p1 (194 wld's ncbe) (194 countrys of the world map.) 194 recognized countrys in the new world order. dec 71 UN meeting investigate. sep 74 UN meeting investigate. re dec UN meeting investigate. E is used as a statement ending. its not code but personalized info. also look up compounding intrest and sinking bonds. 99.84.8 is a intrest table rate at 7%. 99.84% at 8 years

not a reply but NCBE appears at least 11 times: National Conference of Bar Examiners

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is there a way to just output the letters as a stream of phonyms? After noticing the frequency of NCBE, I focused on these three lines from the first document: (FLRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE) (CDNSE PRSE ONS*E 74 NCBE) (PR+SE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) They seem pronounceable in a sort of pig-latin style - "Flur-say pur-say ohn-day 71 nick-bay" > although its tough to say "oranger than orange with a texture like crumpled sandp…

Well over half the time E is used it is preceded by the letter S. It seems E is only used with very few letter preceding it. BE, LE, RE, TE and SE

There appear to be at least 2 (if not 3) different types of E. The first is a very distinct E. The second has a more curved shape for the back (like a bracket '(' rather than '['), the final (which seems to only appear at the end of lines) appears more like an arrow, with the back being triangular <-

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is there a way to just output the letters as a stream of phonyms? After noticing the frequency of NCBE, I focused on these three lines from the first document: (FLRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE) (CDNSE PRSE ONS*E 74 NCBE) (PR+SE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) They seem pronounceable in a sort of pig-latin style - "Flur-say pur-say ohn-day 71 nick-bay" > although its tough to say "oranger than orange with a texture like crumpled sandp…

I lit on that too. I find myself adding syllables and sounds to words in my mind all the time to "smooth their edges". Some words just don't fit together without "help". I thought maybe "Firse Perse On de 71 Nice be" I'm perusing the thought that maybe he's taking notes on how people treated him or something.

I kind of read that to be: First press on the 71, Second press on the 74 Third press on the 75

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#147

We know that he's had this "language" since he was a child so I'm going to go out on a limb here (and introduce no small measure of my own bias) and guess its not a cerebral cipher that will easily be unraveled by simple frequency of note correlation. I've likely got a touch of Asperger's myself and I know I have a bigger touch of synesthesia. I remember vividly during my childhood certain words being an explosion of…

> Is there a way to just output the letters as a stream of phonyms? After noticing the frequency of NCBE, I focused on these three lines from the first document: (FLRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE) (CDNSE PRSE ONS*E 74 NCBE) (PR+SE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) They seem pronounceable in a sort of pig-latin style - "Flur-say pur-say ohn-day 71 nick-bay" > although its tough to say "oranger than orange with a texture like crumpled sandp…

Looks to me like it might be a mnemonic text compression scheme, not encrypted text. I've known one person who used pictograms as mnemonic memory aids. I think this man was using the first letter of words as mneumonic aids to each word in his note. Therefore, each letter has a context sensitive meaning that reminded him of the text of his note. However, don't assume he could spell -- he may have heard the wrong sounds for the beginning of words and therefore may misspell even the first letters of a word. While most people get at least the first letter of a word correct, I know a few who that seem to have an auditory equivalent of dyslexia and make mistakes there too.

In that vein, the key will be the numbers and related letters around them, especially the repeated ones. The numbers are likely not encoded since the meaning of the rest of the text is obscure.

For example, "E 71" "E 74" and "E 75" on page 1 might mean Interstate (or "Enterstate") 71, 74 & 75. Then the trailing "NCBE" could mean "nice camping by interstate (enterstate)" or "no collecting by exit" or, well, practically anything. Without knowing a lot more about the man and his life, it would be impossible to even begin to guess.

Final insight. Page 1 is organized and formatted nicely, and appears like it might have been done on lined paper. It is probably a copy of some original notes about things important for him to remember. If this is really a mnemonic compression scheme, then this page will be the rosetta stone. It would be interesting to know whatever became of page(s) 2 and later of his transcribed notes (nobody denotes a page as page 1 unless there's more than one page). The notes page is more haphazard, with groups circled. It was probably the notes he was taking that day, or at least the notes he hadn't spent time to transcribe yet. One of the last notes was probably why he was killed, although its doubtful any of them are notes about killer -- they're probably about something completely unrelated and he was just unfortunate enough to be seen taking notes while looking at something in the wrong direction.

I hope they catch the murderer someday.

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#148

We know that he's had this "language" since he was a child so I'm going to go out on a limb here (and introduce no small measure of my own bias) and guess its not a cerebral cipher that will easily be unraveled by simple frequency of note correlation. I've likely got a touch of Asperger's myself and I know I have a bigger touch of synesthesia. I remember vividly during my childhood certain words being an explosion of…

> Is there a way to just output the letters as a stream of phonyms? After noticing the frequency of NCBE, I focused on these three lines from the first document: (FLRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE) (CDNSE PRSE ONS*E 74 NCBE) (PR+SE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) They seem pronounceable in a sort of pig-latin style - "Flur-say pur-say ohn-day 71 nick-bay" > although its tough to say "oranger than orange with a texture like crumpled sandp…

Looks to me like it might be a mnemonic text compression scheme, not encrypted text. I've known one person who used pictographs as mnemonic memory aids. I think this man was using the first letter of words as mnemonic aids to each word in his note. Therefore, each letter has a context sensitive meaning that reminded him of the text of his note. However, don't assume he could spell -- he may have heard the wrong sounds for the beginning of words and therefore may misspell even the first letters of a word. While most people get at least the first letter of a word correct, I know a few who that seem to have an auditory equivalent of dyslexia and make mistakes there too.

In that vein, the key will be the numbers and related letters around them, especially the repeated ones. The numbers are likely not encoded since the meaning of the rest of the text is obscure.

For example, "E 71" "E 74" and "E 75" on page 1 might mean Interstate (or "Enterstate") 71, 74 & 75. Then the trailing "NCBE" could mean "nice camping by interstate (enterstate)" or "no collecting by exit" or, well, practically anything. Without knowing a lot more about the man and his life, it would be impossible to even begin to guess.

Final insight. Page 1 is organized and formatted nicely, and appears like it might have been done on lined paper. It is probably a copy of some original notes about things important for him to remember. If this is really a mnemonic compression scheme, then this page will be the rosetta stone. It would be interesting to know whatever became of page(s) 2 and later of his transcribed notes (nobody denotes a page as page 1 unless there's more than one page). The notes page is more haphazard, with groups circled. It was probably the notes he was taking that day, or at least the notes he hadn't spent time to transcribe yet. One of the last notes was probably why he was killed, although its doubtful any of them are notes about killer -- they're probably about something completely unrelated and he was just unfortunate enough to be seen taking notes while looking at something in the wrong direction.

I hope they catch the murderer someday.

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

not a reply. but at the bottom p1 (194 wld's ncbe) (194 countrys of the world map.) 194 recognized countrys in the new world order. dec 71 UN meeting investigate. sep 74 UN meeting investigate. re dec UN meeting investigate. E is used as a statement ending. its not code but personalized info. also look up compounding intrest and sinking bonds. 99.84.8 is a intrest table rate at 7%. 99.84% at 8 years

not a reply but NCBE appears at least 11 times: National Conference of Bar Examiners

if E is no meaning. i think NCB = http://www.ncb.com/default.aspx?id=614

Re: FBI wants public help solving encrypted notes from murder mystery

#150

We know that he's had this "language" since he was a child so I'm going to go out on a limb here (and introduce no small measure of my own bias) and guess its not a cerebral cipher that will easily be unraveled by simple frequency of note correlation. I've likely got a touch of Asperger's myself and I know I have a bigger touch of synesthesia. I remember vividly during my childhood certain words being an explosion of…

> Is there a way to just output the letters as a stream of phonyms? After noticing the frequency of NCBE, I focused on these three lines from the first document: (FLRSE PRSE ONDE 71 NCBE) (CDNSE PRSE ONS*E 74 NCBE) (PR+SE PRSE ONREDE 75 NCBE) They seem pronounceable in a sort of pig-latin style - "Flur-say pur-say ohn-day 71 nick-bay" > although its tough to say "oranger than orange with a texture like crumpled sandp…

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