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Ex-Googler's startup comes out of stealth with simple, clever robot design

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#141
imagine thousands of years ago, if you were very rich, you would stay away from rivers because of the risk of flooding - but you still needed a source of water - so you hire people to carry water from the streams to your home.

how would you automate that? by building robots to carry the water containers? what is the optimal solution may not be the most obvious.

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Research; as the article states, it's a research platform. It's up to hackers and stuff to come up with ways to use this platform.

Hackers with a spare 20K?

Research labs

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post #119

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I think at this point, if there was a robot capable of doing this, it would also drive my kid to school,walk the dog,and even do the dishes on its spare time. Instead we get a tall clothe hanger on a motorised base.

If you want/need a robot to walk your dog, then you shouldn't have a dog.

This seems a bit harsh. What about an elderly/ill/disabled person, who would love the companionship and would make for a kind and responsible owner, except that they aren't capable of consistently giving the dog sufficient exercise?

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Things it can't do (extended): - operate in your particular setting (it's likely over-trained for that specific environment) - run for long periods of time as a fully autonomous robot - be anywhere near small humans or animals - do any of the tasks in the video with any kind of speed or precision - learn new tasks - handle multiple objectives, or even process the request of a single objective reliably This is nowhere…

You're right about this expanded list of things it can't do. However, the conclusion is a bit on the negative side. The Roomba or any of the autonomous grass mowing robots can't do any of the things you mention either, and yet they are commercially successful in the consumer world. The article mentions that this robot is still a research platform, so as you say, it is not currently ready for consumers. However, there…

The more single purpose the device, the lower the price point would need to be. The Roomba also is a smaller device, so you’re not compromising living space either.

Re: Ex-Googler's startup comes out of stealth with simple, clever robot design

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Things it can't do: - go up stairs - get up after a fall / reset itself - pick up heavy objects - precise motion (so no cooking) - interact with buttons or touch screens (so laundry might be hard) The one use case I think it might be worth it is if the robot can take a room full of toys and return everything back to where it belongs. Kind of like a one click, reset this room. If it can help me keep organized and clea…

> I'd gladly pay 5k for a robot that can auto-organize my stuff around the house The main equation for general-use household robots is: can it beat human fares? A good weekly cleaner (4 hours) is about €22/h in Paris, or €4.5k/year. Let’s say your robot lives 4 years, similar to your computer (which seems fair, since it is one, and an abused one at that). Since you amortize its price over 4 years, its initial cost mu…

Leave a room and a swarm of tiny flying droids come out of the ceiling?

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post #29

I'm always surprised how much these things cost. A 3 axis CNC is basically a 3 degree-of-freedom robot, yet only costs a few hundred dollars. I think we'll see mobile autonomous robots come into people's homes only after they: - fall to low thousands price range - do something useful (ie. not just a "social robot")

a CNC does not have a perception/reaction loop and is no more a robot than a dot matrix printer might be. the cheap cnc machines don’t even have closed loop control. it certainly isn’t solving any of the right problems.

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#147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're right about this expanded list of things it can't do. However, the conclusion is a bit on the negative side. The Roomba or any of the autonomous grass mowing robots can't do any of the things you mention either, and yet they are commercially successful in the consumer world. The article mentions that this robot is still a research platform, so as you say, it is not currently ready for consumers. However, there…

The more single purpose the device, the lower the price point would need to be. The Roomba also is a smaller device, so you’re not compromising living space either.

Right, just like scientific calculators and mobile phones :)

Re: Ex-Googler's startup comes out of stealth with simple, clever robot design

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Things it can't do: - go up stairs - get up after a fall / reset itself - pick up heavy objects - precise motion (so no cooking) - interact with buttons or touch screens (so laundry might be hard) The one use case I think it might be worth it is if the robot can take a room full of toys and return everything back to where it belongs. Kind of like a one click, reset this room. If it can help me keep organized and clea…

Things it can do:

- stick a knife in your throat while you sleep

(Assuming it is always-on and connected to the internet, and has zero-day vulnerabilities which it obviously will)

Re: Ex-Googler's startup comes out of stealth with simple, clever robot design

#149

Things it can't do: - go up stairs - get up after a fall / reset itself - pick up heavy objects - precise motion (so no cooking) - interact with buttons or touch screens (so laundry might be hard) The one use case I think it might be worth it is if the robot can take a room full of toys and return everything back to where it belongs. Kind of like a one click, reset this room. If it can help me keep organized and clea…

> I'd gladly pay 5k for a robot that can auto-organize my stuff around the house The main equation for general-use household robots is: can it beat human fares? A good weekly cleaner (4 hours) is about €22/h in Paris, or €4.5k/year. Let’s say your robot lives 4 years, similar to your computer (which seems fair, since it is one, and an abused one at that). Since you amortize its price over 4 years, its initial cost mu…

robot will clean everyday as vacuums already do

Re: Ex-Googler's startup comes out of stealth with simple, clever robot design

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> I'd gladly pay 5k for a robot that can auto-organize my stuff around the house The main equation for general-use household robots is: can it beat human fares? A good weekly cleaner (4 hours) is about €22/h in Paris, or €4.5k/year. Let’s say your robot lives 4 years, similar to your computer (which seems fair, since it is one, and an abused one at that). Since you amortize its price over 4 years, its initial cost mu…

Robots won't accidentally infect you with disease, which is a big worry these days.

They could get infected with a crypto-miner and cause you a high electricity bill.
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