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Japan Captures TOP500 Crown with Arm-Powered Supercomputer

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Re: Japan Captures TOP500 Crown with Arm-Powered Supercomputer

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> The only US owned state of the art fabs in the US belong to Intel Is the "US owned" clarification to exclude Global Foundries' New York fab? :D > Chromebooks are ARM Maybe half of them. > What's left for Intel? Fabricating others' designs like TSMC? But also, Intel isn't going away any time soon, just not being a monopoly anymore.

Global Foundries New York fab (Fab 8), from Wikipedia: Technology: 28 nm and 14 nm. 7 nm planned. However, in August 2018, GlobalFoundries made the decision to suspend 7 nm development and planned production, citing the unaffordable costs to outfit Fab 8 for 7 nm production. GlobalFoundries held open the possibility of resuming 7 nm operations in the future if additional resources could be secured. So, not a state of…

Yeah, not "state of the art" technically, but that's where the first generation Ryzens (14nm) were made, which still feels like yesterday to me, haha.

"14nm" is still good enough, especially considering Intel's "10nm" vaporware..

Re: Japan Captures TOP500 Crown with Arm-Powered Supercomputer

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The link is working for me, here are the details on the winner. “The new top system, Fugaku, turned in a High Performance Linpack (HPL) result of 415.5 petaflops, besting the now second-place Summit system by a factor of 2.8x. Fugaku, is powered by Fujitsu’s 48-core A64FX SoC, becoming the first number one system on the list to be powered by ARM processors. In single or further reduced precision, which are often used…

Wow, so we've hit exascale. I heard claims that we would reach exascale by 2020 in 2012. I didn't believe them.

Re: Japan Captures TOP500 Crown with Arm-Powered Supercomputer

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Why do you say that AGI has escaped Moore's law? Especially, how can you say so when you don't know what the right set of algorithms are?

Oh then you're not going to like what I'm going to say next: - Somewhere between 2015 and 2025, multiple individual groups will have cracked the AGI problem independently. (but 2015 is in the past, which means there are likely groups out there that have cracked the problem and keeping it a secret). - AGI-in-the-basement scenario is very doable and has been or will be done, many times over.

And your evidence for this claim is... what?

Re: Japan Captures TOP500 Crown with Arm-Powered Supercomputer

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It is the fault of both. Interns are not stupid and so they have to carry the burden of their mistakes too.

No, absolutely not. As an engineer you develop systems and processes that don’t allow such major mistakes. You can’t fault people for making simple mistakes or you’ll end up with an organization where nothing gets done.

Every single human holding a responsibility at any level gets blame all the time. There is nothing wrong with that, nor with making mistakes, and it is a fact of life.

Engineering processes are orthogonal to that.

Re: Japan Captures TOP500 Crown with Arm-Powered Supercomputer

#145

Pushing the boundaries is the best way to advance technology Car manufacturers need ridiculously expensive race cars to push the technology to get advancements in everyday car technology. Similarly, Top500 is one way to push the technology for not just computationally but also things like better power, heat and network management in processors and computers in general. With ever doubling server farms, Heat management…

>Heat management of these systems will become the major contributor for environmental pollution

Here's an idea, maybe we should just turn the moon into a giant data center?

Re: Japan Captures TOP500 Crown with Arm-Powered Supercomputer

#146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh then you're not going to like what I'm going to say next: - Somewhere between 2015 and 2025, multiple individual groups will have cracked the AGI problem independently. (but 2015 is in the past, which means there are likely groups out there that have cracked the problem and keeping it a secret). - AGI-in-the-basement scenario is very doable and has been or will be done, many times over.

And your evidence for this claim is... what?

A combination of:

- sources available freely online

- my own thought process and piecing of things together

Re: Japan Captures TOP500 Crown with Arm-Powered Supercomputer

#147

The end of the US semiconductor industry is now in sight. The only US owned state of the art fabs in the US belong to Intel. Intel survives because they have a high margin on x86 CPUs. Today, TMSC announced 5nm, and the top supercomputer is ARM-based. Apple seems to be going ARM. Chromebooks are ARM. Microsoft now offers Windows on ARM, on the Surface Pro X. Mobile never used x86. x86 is on the way out. What's left f…

> What's left for Intel?

Well I'd like to see them go all in on Desktop Linux.

But then I'm a dreamer.

Re: Japan Captures TOP500 Crown with Arm-Powered Supercomputer

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The link is working for me, here are the details on the winner. “The new top system, Fugaku, turned in a High Performance Linpack (HPL) result of 415.5 petaflops, besting the now second-place Summit system by a factor of 2.8x. Fugaku, is powered by Fujitsu’s 48-core A64FX SoC, becoming the first number one system on the list to be powered by ARM processors. In single or further reduced precision, which are often used…

There seems to be a difference between peak and useful. Be careful of marketing and hype.

(I am not an HPC guy, just IMO).

Re: Japan Captures TOP500 Crown with Arm-Powered Supercomputer

#150

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And your evidence for this claim is... what?

A combination of: - sources available freely online - my own thought process and piecing of things together

What sources freely available online tell you that there are likely groups out there that have cracked AGI and are keeping it a secret?
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