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Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

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Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#141
It's interesting to see an argument against ClearType/font smoothing, but not anti-aliasing in general. They both change the font from what the designer intended, so why is font smoothing so much worse?

I actually disable anti-aliasing in games on my 4K display - not just for performance, but because anti-aliasing genuinely isn't needed at that density. I think the author could go all the way here too, since after all, AA is just another crutch for low-density displays.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#142

Bitmap fonts will look perfect on low res displays. I've been using a 1366x768 laptop with terminus font for six years.

Well, I don't know what DPI you are using (perhaps the display is tiny?) but it sounds low. Of course, we all used low DPI displays for years and were happy with them because we did not know better. Now that I've become accustomed to higher DPI, low DPI screens look like crap.

It's the exact reason I am actively avoiding using 120 or 144hz screens. I don't want to get used to it and then need to ditch my current display. For several years I bounced back and forth between gaming on a PC and PS4. The whiplash between 60 and 30hz was absolutely brutal - but I never noticed it back when all my displays were 30hz.

So in the end, I am not sure what advice, if any, I am trying to give you. I love my huge, high-DPI screen, but if you are happy with what you've got, you might seriously consider sticking with it for a while.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#143
post #40

Another option for low DPI users is to use bitmap fonts instead of vector ones. I find blurriness of truetype fonts on low res displays to give greater visual fatigue than the jagged edges of misc-fixed or terminus.

Agreed. Anti-aliasing is only needed if you're trying to imitate printed text, which does not improve programming or writing productivity.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#144
Personally I can’t go back to a 60hz monitor at this point. So really can’t go to 4K until there is a reasonably priced 144hz monitor with low input lag and response times. I’m okay sacrificing color for speed (TN panels are okay with me).

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a hard time using three monitors effectively, so that in the end they are distracting for me. Probably you need some particular personality tics to make proper use of them.

My personal way of organizing 3 monitors: 1. Main screen. For the code editor, intense web browsing, etc. 2. Secondary screen. For debugging visuals (since I work on web stuff, it usually hosts a Chromium window; for a mobile dev, I imagine it would be an emulator/simulator), documentation referencing (with the code editor open on the main screen), etc. 3. Third screen. For all comms-related things: MS Teams/Outlook/…

This is my exact layout too! Though the screen with the code editor is ultra wide, so with window tiling I have the editor and the terminal side by side

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#146
post #76

The technical details are all right (or seem right to me, anyway), but this is too opinionated for my liking. No, you do not need a 4K monitor for software development. Some people might like them, some won't. [edit/clarification: someone rightfully pointed out that nobody will actively dislike a 4K monitor. I was unclear here: I meant "some people won't need them" more than "dislike them"] This sounds like when Jeff…

I feel like HN as a whole want blogs to come back, and part of that is well written exposition (the technical details) followed by near-outlandish opinions that tend to generate discussion. It's more fun, it leads to more conversation (here we are!), and clarifies our own values. I think three monitors is distracting, but that whole community discussion gave me the opportunity to compare how I use a multi-monitor set…

> I think three monitors is distracting

Could you elaborate on this? Specifically, do you feel that having three/multiple monitors is necessarily distracting (no matter what you do with them) or just encourages distraction?

My experience is the latter, and that if I am disciplined and only put windows from one task at a time on all three, then I have no more temptation to be distracted than I usually have at my internet-enabled glowbox, but maybe I'm an outlier.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a hard time using three monitors effectively, so that in the end they are distracting for me. Probably you need some particular personality tics to make proper use of them.

My personal way of organizing 3 monitors: 1. Main screen. For the code editor, intense web browsing, etc. 2. Secondary screen. For debugging visuals (since I work on web stuff, it usually hosts a Chromium window; for a mobile dev, I imagine it would be an emulator/simulator), documentation referencing (with the code editor open on the main screen), etc. 3. Third screen. For all comms-related things: MS Teams/Outlook/…

To clarify, my beef is with Atwood's opinion (and similar opinions) that you must use a three monitor setup, otherwise you're doing something wrong. Of course I understand for many devs this setup works, in which case more power to them!

I just dislike being told unless I follow these fads I'm a subpar developer. I don't own a mechanical keyboard or a three monitor setup. I don't own a 4K monitor (I suppose I eventually will, when they become the norm). When Apple came up with retina displays, I didn't feel I had magically become unable to write code because my display at the time was 1440x900.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#148
post #36

Disappointed that he didn't mention pixel-perfect programming fonts (e.g. proggy) which offer high-density text on low-resolution monitors while not looking nearly as bad as his Consolas example. These fonts make a huge difference imo.

I also recommend them for the same reason. I use terminus. It looks great whatever the size. When writing prose, I prefer serif fonts such as go mono, at a bigger size.

Yeah, I've started using terminus... probably 10 years ago now, and I still haven't found a programming font that I liked more. Tried using some retina macbooks with hyped-font-of-the-month, they just didn't work for me.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#149
The problem is that a little more can be waaay worse. You need to to double your pixels to avoid turning everything into a blurry mess, which means 200+ PPI. But there are literally no monitors like that not made by Apple. A 4K monitor at 32 inches is 138. No thank you. Gross. There actually are some 4K 22-inch monitors, but I don't want a 22-inch monitor.

I'm just going to stick with my 1440p 27" monitor until someone can sell me something better.

Re: Time to Upgrade Your Monitor

#150
post #75

I still use a CRT, because features I want are still ludicrous expensive in newer tech (although they are getting cheaper over time). 1. Arbitrary resolutions, great to run old software and games, even better to run new games at lower resolution to increase performance. 2. Arbitrary refresh rates. 3. Zero (literally) response time. 4. Awesome color range (many modern screens still are 12bit, meanwhile silicon graphic…

What CRT(s) are you using?
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