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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-polio_syndrome Covid is a new disease. Will it have long term effects?
Chickenpox -> shingles is another example.
And HIV -> AIDS of course.
I'm Married to an ER Doc in NYC
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> the US - the country that went to the moon, that invented the internet, that built a military capability that literally saved the world in ww2 two of those are in part result of propaganda
>> the US - the country that went to the moon, that invented the internet, that built a military capability that literally saved the world in ww2 > two of those are in part result of propaganda Eh, no. We (the USA) did really go to the moon, though I know some USA citizens dispute that. It was really USA universities and corporations (with DARPA funding) that built the foundations of Ethernet, TCP/IP and the Internet…
"I really doubt the Allies could have stopped the Axis powers"
It was a team effort - without combined efforts of the USA and the Soviets (and to a lesser extent the UK) the Axis powers might have prevailed.
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South Korea, Hong Kong and Singapore haven't even had a real first wave yet. They're at 5 deaths per million, that's nothing. The US, by contrast, has rapidly increasing herd immunity. That's why the trend is going down despite less social distancing. And there has never been a working coronavirus vaccin, so the assumption there will be one for covid19 soon is unfounded optimism.
Trend is up for new cases and hospital beds in almost every single state that opened early. The only exception is Georgia which has been caught falsifying data more than once.
You have to torture the data pretty badly to come to that conclusion. In deaths per million those states have vastly outperformed and after the dust has settled they will still have way fewer deaths per million compared to those states where politicians panicked, issued full lockdowns, and sent covid patients to care homes.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the US - the country that went to the moon, that invented the internet, that built a military capability that literally saved the world in ww2 two of those are in part result of propaganda
>> the US - the country that went to the moon, that invented the internet, that built a military capability that literally saved the world in ww2 > two of those are in part result of propaganda Eh, no. We (the USA) did really go to the moon, though I know some USA citizens dispute that. It was really USA universities and corporations (with DARPA funding) that built the foundations of Ethernet, TCP/IP and the Internet…
Wow incredible! Apparently, the USA have also developed the world's most potent propaganda machine.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the US - the country that went to the moon, that invented the internet, that built a military capability that literally saved the world in ww2 two of those are in part result of propaganda
I've read a fair bit of military history, and I'm fairly confident the moon landings were not done using a green screen, so please elaborate on which 2 of these are not true.
Maybe "saved the world" and "invented" the internet? Because yeah of course, the internet has been "invented"! It was absolutely not a natural evolution of local networking based on known technology...
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"You cannot test 320 million people, and do followup weekly testing on them." I mean, that is factually wrong. We could actually do that. It wouldn't even be that expensive. Of course, such a thing isn't really necessary. If everyone who wanted a test could get one without delay and get results back in hours, that would be sufficient to implement test and trace effectively.
Of course testing scales with the size of the country.
So do available resources. This go to argument that things that work in smaller countries don't work in the US is bizarre. It's used in all these discussions of how things that work in the EU couldn't possibly work in the US, even though the EU has a larger population.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
"You cannot test 320 million people, and do followup weekly testing on them." I mean, that is factually wrong. We could actually do that. It wouldn't even be that expensive. Of course, such a thing isn't really necessary. If everyone who wanted a test could get one without delay and get results back in hours, that would be sufficient to implement test and trace effectively.
I suggest you watch the videos from the Seattle hospital involved with the first corona patient. They emphasize that each test is expensive, involving PPE for the collector, the lab assistants, reagents and machine time. Then there's the question of accuracy and retesting to verify a positive result ...
At this point in Europe we have private accredited labs doing tests for under 100€ on-site whenever there's an outbreak. Testing the entire US population once would cost ~30B$. Do it three times and spend 100B$ which would be incredible overtesting, and yet well below the other measures your congress has already passed in terms of cost.
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I think it is more complicated than that. Almost all states very early on had some level of 'lock-down', stay at home order, or what have you. This has limited movement of people, and as a side effect, or maybe even direct order from governors, closed down/ limited many business. Including hospitals. Hospitals in America, believe it nor not, are for profit businesses. It is un-intuitive, but many of them are in serio…
Actually, over half of US hospitals are not-for-profit and another quarter are public. Only a small minority are for-profit. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit_hospital
Oh, thanks. well maybe I’m wrong about the amount of for profit hospitals, I’ll look into it. I realize now that I could have left that part out in my rant. Either way, non profits are affected the same way from lack of traffic/ volume.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think it is more complicated than that. Almost all states very early on had some level of 'lock-down', stay at home order, or what have you. This has limited movement of people, and as a side effect, or maybe even direct order from governors, closed down/ limited many business. Including hospitals. Hospitals in America, believe it nor not, are for profit businesses. It is un-intuitive, but many of them are in serio…
> At this point, nobody wants to go in for routine examinations or non-emergency procedures. For-profit hospitals (almost all of them are) as a business, depend on providing these non-emergency services/ surgeries/ procedures. Hospitals across the country are laying off health-care workers en-masse. Nitpick: Over half of US hospitals are nonprofits or government owned [1] though I believe hospitals are vastly outnumb…
Thanks, I see now that I overstated the number of for profit hospitals. You are right, though. They all depend on us using them.