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Ask HN: Moving from a startup to a big co, what should I be aware of?

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Re: Ask HN: Moving from a startup to a big co, what should I be aware of?

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> Learn to work with this and you can extract gold. Curious if you have any tips for this stuff? My instinct would be to just poke and prod things, writing tests or documenting things as I go along. "I wonder what happens when I do X" -> write a test, get a result. "I wonder what data looks like here" -> examine it, write a summary of what I found. Etc.

I have been a contractor/consultant for the last 7 years. What I've seen when you try and go down that "write a test" path is. Oh there's a 2500 line stored procedure with hardcoded network paths for production data in it. Or, this api only runs on the 2nd Tuesday of the Month but only after 8pm when the day of the month is also even. There's so much do-it-live embedded in the legacy systems it takes months to make e…

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Re: Ask HN: Moving from a startup to a big co, what should I be aware of?

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No, that's not the way it works at big companies like AWS, Google, Microsoft (source: me, I've worked at all 3). A large company attracts various types of people. It's not homogeneous like what you describe. Also, there are plenty of opportunities to practice "intrapreneurship" within a large company with lots of resources to impact the world in a positive way.

“Intrepreneurship” is a nice euphemism for “here, you can work on your cute little side projects and then we will keep the IP and patents.”

Still sounds better than being a feature factory for someone else's vision.

Re: Ask HN: Moving from a startup to a big co, what should I be aware of?

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Here is what it means to work at a big company: * Things work slowly, so relax. There are many people that have a hand in every aspect of a product decision. * At a startup you are actively changing the world. That’s done now. Put that completely out of your head. You are cog in a machine. Instead focus on your assigned product, help your teammates, and just learn to relax. * You, the individual, are not important. T…

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I feel this paints a far uglier picture than reality. In my limited experience (been with two fortune 500 companies, one of then in the top 10), you can expect maybe one of these issues(or two if you're really unlucky).

Re: Ask HN: Moving from a startup to a big co, what should I be aware of?

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* Things work slowly, so relax. The extent of this is hard to grasp outside of bigco. At oracle we had layoffs/reorg - no real work was done for ~7 days, and it took 3 months to figure out our new roles/responsibilities. Some people were paid $40k+ in that time period and did very little work. Things occasionally move very very slow. Twiddle your thumbs and be happy about your huge salary, don't quit like I did!

Seriously. I heard big companies were slow before but I didn’t realize the magnitude of it until I joined one. Most people where I work either only produce real work for anywhere between 40 to 10% of their time. The rest is either filled by busywork or twiddling your thumbs (depending on individuals)

The last 6 months I worked at a large for profit education company all I ever worked on or "released" were simple configuration changes. it was a struggle to find things to fill my day with.

Re: Ask HN: Moving from a startup to a big co, what should I be aware of?

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A large company generally has more money. I work for a faang, and appreciate that it doesn't take much to spin up big ec2 clusters as personal sandboxes, get licenses for pricey productivity software, fly out to conferences, or take costly risks. If you're creative, you'll find niches of freedom in a big company (flush with cash) that is hard to imagine in a small one. You could feel like a cog in the machine, but that's a matter of perspective. Your team's goals can be subsumed under the obscure goals of the entire company and you may feel distant from an actual impact, but you can choose to view your team as a machine, and not a cog, with its own set of constraints. In a way, even if I don't comprehend the 'why' of a certain goal, I will take it as a given, and still find it fulfilling to problem-solve my way towards it. I don't get why so many people insist on being able to influence goals, directions, etc of their company. I say give me a puzzle to solve, and if it's fun, I won't dwell on the 'why' for too long. It may seem apathetic. My passion doesn't have to be visible all the time.

Re: Ask HN: Moving from a startup to a big co, what should I be aware of?

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Having worked at Big Co and then on my own company for years, this is exactly what I was thinking. You'll lose professional autonomy in exchange for a good salary, job security, and resume bling. And you probably won't have to work as hard or as often (again, probably).

In my career, I've had almost the opposite experience. At $bigco, it was possible to beg/borrow for 100k to solve some problem, or hack together some tooling to solve a problem the team was running into. Need some servers and licenses, and it's near year end, partner with a program manager who hasn't used all his budget, help solve their problems, and get things done. I ended up spending something like $250k before t…

> up until $bigco decided to emulate the way it thought the FAANG companies worked

thought being the keyword here, As somebody who works for FAANG, we are allowed a lot of leeway to do what we think we need for the goal set.

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Why would I find it depressing if I’m risk averse? You sound like the only risk is getting fired for a random reason, which could also happen at a smaller corp.

I think they meant risk-adverse, like able to tolerate risks well.

Both adverse and averse mean pretty much the same thing (thanks English language), but otherwise you are completely correct.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/adverse-or-ave...

Re: Ask HN: Moving from a startup to a big co, what should I be aware of?

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"you probably won't have to work as hard" For me, it was a question of: do I put in 40% to get 90% completed, or do I put in 150% to get 99% completed?

I'd like to echo this, along with the "relax" sentiment from other comments. I worked incredibly hard to open source a project at a faang. I was even given a customer obsession award for it. No promo.. and no promo level projects for the next year or so... and now this open source project is "too old" for promo consideration. I've learned to relax and give just enough to not be marked LE. I now have a lot of time to…

LE?

Re: Ask HN: Moving from a startup to a big co, what should I be aware of?

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Office politics. Culture. The fact that it doesn't matter what the company says their culture is and that their culture is defined by the behaviors that they do and don't allow in the workplace. Culture can vary from team to team and department to department. Deadweight. The organization is going to be full of dead weight. Get ready to feel under-appreciated and under-valued.

We refer to the dead weight as riders. they're just riding along for the journey but they don't actually provide any actual value to the company. At a startup, those are the first people to go during layoffs or during other downturns. At a larger company they can stick around a lot longer.
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