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Forced social isolation causes neural craving similar to hunger

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Re: Forced social isolation causes neural craving similar to hunger

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Post by tripzilch »

Trasmatta wrote: post #32
briefcomment wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you really call living with your family isolation? There are people out there who live with no one, aren't near family, and can't see friends because of the lockdowns.

Yep, this me. I haven't been able to see friends or family since March 15th. So I haven't even touched another human in that long. It's been really bad for my mental health. I have a hard time empathising with people who say they've been super lonely but still live with family.

> I have a hard time empathising with people who say they've been super lonely but still live with family.

This. They have no idea.

Point in case, my friends group starting organising weekly group video calls, to see each other and play scribl.io. After a few weeks it quickly became apparent who was really isolated and who had a partner or even just flat mates. The isolated people were really looking forward to the video chat (also you could tell they were more grumpy / on edge than usual). People who don't live alone, started missing the video chat evenings because video chat is such a poor substitute for actual social contact, it really wasn't bringing them anything.

I'm glad to hear (elsewhere ITT) that isolation is worst the first time you go through it. Because I'm fully expecting a second wave when autumn hits or something. And I fully expect people who do not live alone to continue being oblivious to the mental state of the isolated ones.

Re: Forced social isolation causes neural craving similar to hunger

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Post by [deleted] »

ummonk wrote: post #81
0xFFC wrote: post #67

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Yes. Those restrictions were from the time we were thinking the virus is more deadly than this (1-2% IFR). Now with more publications, data suggests an IFR of 0.1-0.6%. Which is pretty low and does not worth crashing the economy. This does not mean vulnerable people has to pay the price no. It is trade off. We have to reopen and go back to normal, while helping vulnerable people. Even some paper suggest far more infe…

The IFR is proving to be ~1%. For 0.1-0.6% to be true, 50-100% of NYC would have to have gotten infected with COVID-19...

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Re: Forced social isolation causes neural craving similar to hunger

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Post by dTal »

0xFFC wrote: post #67
nprz wrote: post #41

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I mean it will continue to spread until that percent of the of the population is infected. Containment is not possible. So right now it's a balancing act of opening up the economy and preventing an explosive outbreak. The hope is a vaccine will be created soon and a large proportion of the population will gain immunity through a vaccine rather than just naturally contracting the virus.

Yes. Those restrictions were from the time we were thinking the virus is more deadly than this (1-2% IFR). Now with more publications, data suggests an IFR of 0.1-0.6%. Which is pretty low and does not worth crashing the economy. This does not mean vulnerable people has to pay the price no. It is trade off. We have to reopen and go back to normal, while helping vulnerable people. Even some paper suggest far more infe…

I don't know where you're getting that IFR figure from. Let's take the UK: 7% of the population have had it[1], and about 60,000 people[2] have died (!). That's 1.3%.

[1]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52837593 [2]https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52976580q

Re: Forced social isolation causes neural craving similar to hunger

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Post by 0xFFC »

dTal wrote: post #143
0xFFC wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. Those restrictions were from the time we were thinking the virus is more deadly than this (1-2% IFR). Now with more publications, data suggests an IFR of 0.1-0.6%. Which is pretty low and does not worth crashing the economy. This does not mean vulnerable people has to pay the price no. It is trade off. We have to reopen and go back to normal, while helping vulnerable people. Even some paper suggest far more infe…

I don't know where you're getting that IFR figure from. Let's take the UK: 7% of the population have had it[1], and about 60,000 people[2] have died (!). That's 1.3%. [1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52837593 [2] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-52976580q

You don’t know because you clearly don’t read!

Two comments bellow I have cited multiple scientific papers. Stop linking fake news :)

Re: Forced social isolation causes neural craving similar to hunger

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Post by kf »

Trasmatta wrote: post #32
briefcomment wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you really call living with your family isolation? There are people out there who live with no one, aren't near family, and can't see friends because of the lockdowns.

Yep, this me. I haven't been able to see friends or family since March 15th. So I haven't even touched another human in that long. It's been really bad for my mental health. I have a hard time empathising with people who say they've been super lonely but still live with family.

No reason to stay so isolated now that covid testing is widely available. Get tested, have your friends get tested, hang out, be human.

Re: Forced social isolation causes neural craving similar to hunger

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Post by curiousgal »

raverbashing wrote: post #123
curiousgal wrote: post #20

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Try spending 2+ months in an 18m² apartment alone AND under the obligation of following courses and studying for exams. Being a college student in a French elite school sucks.

Is that a CitéU? Or just your avg. attic conversion? (But yes it sucks)

À la CitéU but down in Saclay.
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