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Re: Show HN: Virus Cafe – Make a friend in 2 minutes

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Post by pachico »

pachico wrote: post #131
aframe wrote: post #118

Don’t want to sully the conversation here, but I want to raise an important point - so @feross, please stick with it. I gave my daughter (6) my iPad for ten minutes this morning and put her on a site to draw minecraft skins. I took a call and took my eyes off the device (but not daughter) for about five minutes while I paced around the room. When I sat back next to her, she somehow ended up on virus Café and was in a…

I agree. On the other side, some might argue that kids shouldn't be given tablets or phones if hey don't need them. There's a lot of discussion about it and, although not complete consensus, most pediatricians seem to discourage so early access to screens. Btw, I'm a father too.

It seems the demotion show has already started... Anyhow, WHO also discourages it https://www.who.int/news-room/detail/24-04-2019-to-grow-up-h... It's not a ridiculous idea.

Re: Show HN: Virus Cafe – Make a friend in 2 minutes

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Post by Accacin »

aframe wrote: post #118

Don’t want to sully the conversation here, but I want to raise an important point - so @feross, please stick with it. I gave my daughter (6) my iPad for ten minutes this morning and put her on a site to draw minecraft skins. I took a call and took my eyes off the device (but not daughter) for about five minutes while I paced around the room. When I sat back next to her, she somehow ended up on virus Café and was in a…

Well it must have been in your web history, I very much doubt she typed the URL in. You could have been visiting anything and she could have accidentally navigated there.

For me, it's a very odd solution to a problem that we have to answer a question before allowing our webcam to be used. I would never set my webcam and mic to be allowed by default, and if I ever give my laptop or device to anyone to search for something I'll put them in a private browser for their privacy aswell as mine.

Either way, I can probably not even begin to understand the responsibilities of being a parent, but if some safeguard is put into this one site, what about the next site you visit that has a similar idea? You're in the same situation again - and there's no shortage of websites for people to chat to each other via webcam.

Re: Show HN: Virus Cafe – Make a friend in 2 minutes

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Post by jagged-chisel »

feross wrote: post #2

Hey folks! I built Virus Cafe to help you make a friend in 2 minutes! My goal is to help people stuck indoors because of COVID-19 (or police curfews) to make meaningful connections with strangers. Here's how it works: 1. You are matched with a random partner for a video chat 2. You're given a deep question to discuss. You have 2 minutes! 3. The only rule is: no small talk! Small talk is the worst and I'm on a mission…

How long does it typically take for both parties to agree to the same question? Some of this stuff I'm not discussing with a stranger that might become a 'friend.'

Re: Show HN: Virus Cafe – Make a friend in 2 minutes

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Post by thih9 »

aframe wrote: post #138
erfgh wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I gave my daughter (6) my iPad for ten minutes this morning There's your problem. Just don't do that. But if you can't avoid it, disconnect the internet before you do it.

That’s not the problem though is it. I said I accept my lapse, but such easy access into a world of video sharing should have at least cursory controls for children. My lapse isn’t in question, it’s the many other children around the world who will be shoved in front of a device and forgotten about, and how this site does nothing to protect them. We’re in lockdown, myself and my wife work full time and then some. My…

I understand that you're emotional, but I don't follow the logic.

Why would you like to change a random site? Wouldn't she end up on a different one next time?

As mentioned elsewhere ( https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23415324 ), it seems easier to configure the iPad so that it's safe to give it to your daughter.

Re: Show HN: Virus Cafe – Make a friend in 2 minutes

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Post by wolco »

aframe wrote: post #118

Don’t want to sully the conversation here, but I want to raise an important point - so @feross, please stick with it. I gave my daughter (6) my iPad for ten minutes this morning and put her on a site to draw minecraft skins. I took a call and took my eyes off the device (but not daughter) for about five minutes while I paced around the room. When I sat back next to her, she somehow ended up on virus Café and was in a…

Give her a kid friendly phone not your phone with your history and preferences.

Re: Show HN: Virus Cafe – Make a friend in 2 minutes

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Post by wolco »

aframe wrote: post #138
erfgh wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I gave my daughter (6) my iPad for ten minutes this morning There's your problem. Just don't do that. But if you can't avoid it, disconnect the internet before you do it.

That’s not the problem though is it. I said I accept my lapse, but such easy access into a world of video sharing should have at least cursory controls for children. My lapse isn’t in question, it’s the many other children around the world who will be shoved in front of a device and forgotten about, and how this site does nothing to protect them. We’re in lockdown, myself and my wife work full time and then some. My…

Would you give her your gun or knive or porn collection of sword collection?

Would you leave her in front of a tv with access to the porn channel.

Your the weak link here.

Re: Show HN: Virus Cafe – Make a friend in 2 minutes

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Post by shlant »

cambalache wrote: post #136
feross wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I understand how you feel but I don't think anything can replace looking into another human's eyes.

And yet you are here, using text.

He said nothing can REPLACE it (as in doesn't provide the same experience), not that he is refusing to use anything BUT it

Re: Show HN: Virus Cafe – Make a friend in 2 minutes

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Post by chris_overseas »

aframe wrote: post #138
erfgh wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I gave my daughter (6) my iPad for ten minutes this morning There's your problem. Just don't do that. But if you can't avoid it, disconnect the internet before you do it.

That’s not the problem though is it. I said I accept my lapse, but such easy access into a world of video sharing should have at least cursory controls for children. My lapse isn’t in question, it’s the many other children around the world who will be shoved in front of a device and forgotten about, and how this site does nothing to protect them. We’re in lockdown, myself and my wife work full time and then some. My…

But that's how the internet works. If not this site, then it'll be another, and another, and another... You are just one URL away from violence, porn, racism, drugs, you name it. Are you going to ask all those millions of sites to put age restrictions and barriers up too? Governments have tried and failed. I'd recommend directing your energy in to setting up whitelists and/or other monitoring software and teaching your daughter to become internet savvy, because what you are trying to do is fight a battle that you simply cannot win.

Personally, putting up any sort of age test is just another annoyance and barrier to entry that makes me more likely to give up trying the site and turn my attention elsewhere. Most kids are smart enough to figure out how to bypass this sort of thing quickly anyway - as I did back in the day, getting past the questions to gain access to Leisure Suit Larry!

Re: Show HN: Virus Cafe – Make a friend in 2 minutes

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

wolco wrote: post #145
aframe wrote: post #118

Don’t want to sully the conversation here, but I want to raise an important point - so @feross, please stick with it. I gave my daughter (6) my iPad for ten minutes this morning and put her on a site to draw minecraft skins. I took a call and took my eyes off the device (but not daughter) for about five minutes while I paced around the room. When I sat back next to her, she somehow ended up on virus Café and was in a…

Give her a kid friendly phone not your phone with your history and preferences.

I really don't think six year olds need their own phone yet...
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