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Re: Firefox 77

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Developing more than one revenue stream is likely to be a more resilient strategy than hoping that Google is happy to keep paying a competitor browser to stay in business

Ads this way is not a sustainable revenue strategy, it's pocket money at best.

Pocket money is better than no money.

Re: Firefox 77

#142

I would financially support a fork of Firefox with all the garbage removed. The home page bullshit, Pocket, all the automatic requests made without user action, and more that I probably don't know of.

And it will soon die off just like every other Firefox fork.

Re: Firefox 77

#143
post #92

Why remove config options and force some UI that clearly people are not happy with? I can not type in a url without showing the most visited sites? At least let me press ctrl-l or click in the url bar and start typing before showing me helpful information, trying to enter a new URL, I really do not want to see the most common sites again and again and again and again! Is Firefox trying to kill the long tail of the in…

>some UI that clearly people are not happy with?

Because swinging and appeasing the vocal minority is not sustainable.

Re: Firefox 77

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post #35
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The $500M per year they get from Google isn't enough to pay the bills?

Having other sources of revenue outside of a benefactor whose interesting in you relies on having a relevance in the browser market with them also actively engaged in implicitly or explicitly undermining that with a product of their own doesn't seem like too bad of an idea.

Why not switch to DuckDuckGo? The marketing target of Mozilla is privacy, and users who care about it don't use Google as their search engine anyways. Also, donations to Mozilla Foundation are not even used for Firefox development: https://old.reddit.com/r/firefox/comments/a98gmi/donations_t...

Re: Firefox 77

#145

I would financially support a fork of Firefox with all the garbage removed. The home page bullshit, Pocket, all the automatic requests made without user action, and more that I probably don't know of.

You can easily disable it. Did you try that already? Do you need help?

Re: Firefox 77

#146

This Pocket thing just won't die, would it?

Why would it? A lot of people like and actively use it. If you don't like the integration with Home, you can disable it.

Re: Firefox 77

#147

And now my address bar expands on click, because browser.urlbar.update1 was removed from about:config. I knew this day was coming, but I'm still not happy it's here. The movement is distracting, and the alignment of the bar's expanded state is terrible. There's a reason most graphic design follows a grid system. We need a way to turn this off. I realize the old about:config flag was tied to a legacy code pathway, but…

After having lived with this turned on for about a month I am happy to report that it doesn't really bother me at all any more now. In the first week or two it just seemed pointless to me, but over time I actually started using the thing more and more. It's definitely not a massive improvement and I'm not sure if I'd have added it if I had had the choice but it may be worth just giving it a chance.

I agree - I thought it was horrible at first (actually, I thought something was broken at first), but I have grown to like it. Sure it can be tweaked a bit but overall I think this is a good move.

Re: Firefox 77

#148
Part I never get is how and when did we got into the mindset of, open source means free and the backlash Mozilla receives for trying to monetize their product. Either I'm reading too much in-between the lines or I'm missing something.

Re: Firefox 77

#149
post #29

The biggest item on my wish-list is still a user-option to restore the previous (sensible) click behavior for the address bar: one click places the cursor, double click selects (all, but if I need to triple click for that it would be fine, too). Sadly, this wish will probably not come true any time soon... or ever.

CMD+L [I'm on a mac, adapt as appropriate for your particular platform] places the cursor in the address bar and selects all the text. Then, if needs be, hit left arrow to move cursor to start of URL and deselect text. Hit right arrow to move to end of URL and deselect text. Seems to be a standard keyboard shortcut across browsers. Works for me in Firefox, Yandex and Opera.

The action that the recent change to Firefox made harder is not any the actions you just described how to do, but placing the cursor at a point _within_ the URL. The recent change made it require a click to select the whole URL, a pause, and another click to place the cursor, instead of just a place to place the cursor.

I used to place the cursor inside the URL a lot and was disappointed when that action got slower. I was all set to give an example of why it’s bad, but right now, I’m actually having trouble thinking of such an example. I used to place the cursor inside a URL and then hit Shift-Command-Right to select the text after that, but I’ve just realized that clicking inside the URL and then dragging the mouse down is even faster. And I used to place the cursor near a section of the URL and use the keyboard to select and delete it, but double-clicking and dragging seems to take a similar amount of time in the examples I can think of.

Hmm… okay, I’ve thought of a good use-case for placing the cursor inside the URL: adding a subdomain. If I’m developing http://example.com/foo and want to go to the staging server http://staging.example.com/foo, I used to be able to click before “example” and type “staging.”. Now that requires two clicks and a pause, and the selection shortcuts above don’t help.

Re: Firefox 77

#150
post #15

No Firefox, no! Please don't embed distraction directly into the browser (pocket recommendations)! I don't want to hear about Coronavirus or ongoing politics bullshit whenever I open a tab! I just want to ignore this noise.

Then disable it in the Settings => Home.
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