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Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by coronadisaster »

ciarannolan wrote: post #119
coronadisaster wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And the police killed nearly 6,000 people in the U.S. since 2015, without due process: https://github.com/washingtonpost/data-police-shootings/blob... (that equals to about 3 per day, I am surprised that I don't hear more about them)

Is due process required when someone points a gun at the police? Charges them with a knife? Tries to run them over? I watch 2-3 new police bodycam videos per day thanks to some neat Youtube channels (Police Activity and Real World Police). I've seen maybe one or two shootings on those channels that were clearly wrong, out of hundreds that were justified or a reasonable person could find to be justified. Wondering if…

I have seen a lot of bad faith cops on https://ns.reddit.com/r/Bad_Cop_No_Donut/, but most of the time, they don't kill the suspect.

This is the best database that I have found so far for shootings by police and at least they tell you if the suspect was armed, but yes more information is always better...

But the main issue is that even if the cop was found to use excessive force, there are no real consequences, most of the time.

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by ancarda »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #135
Jah6Aihe wrote: post #9

Here is what I do myself to avoid surveillance culture, in case anyone find it useful. 1. I always use local apps rather than webservices if possible. I use only free software, built from source, to be sure there's no tracker in it (I would love to find a way to whitelist which apps can access the network, but I haven't found a way for that yet). There's almost always a way to perform a task locally. 2. I have a copy…

> I use only free software, built from source, to be sure there's no tracker in it https://arxiv.org/abs/2005.09535 How do you plan to mitigate ^^ ?

And this is why I gave up some time ago when it comes to privacy/security. It just became exhausting to keep up with all the vulnerabilities.

But of course, giving up isn't the solution. So now I am working on it again...

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by Lineup »

shadowgovt wrote: post #110
ravenstine wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does mean different things to different people, but there's a relatively common understanding of "America" as an idea. Interpretations of America generally have a lot of overlap, even if there's some difference. Our rights are pretty much a central pillar of the concept of America, and if they aren't inalienable or taken seriously, then America is fundamentally lost. Even if people have a different idea of what Am…

I agree an objective viewpoint is possible to find, but any conversation about "America being over" needs to start with confirmation that the speakers have agreed upon an objective viewpoint. Decontextualized, the fundamental rights Americans celebrate are at odds with each other (right to life and right to liberty are the obvious examples, and some good criteria for discerning how to maintain those in coexistence ha…

>...right to liberty are the obvious examples >..."Right to liberty," are much, much murkier.

Uh... I'm not sure what it is that you are trying to say, or if you are sure of what you are trying to say, or if you have a very appropriate username.

Moreover the freedoms [0] that you mentioned are aspirational. Also, not the constitutional freedoms of speech and religion, which are enshrined therein.

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Freedoms

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by wpasc »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #128
tossAfterUsing wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Let's not act like the United States was a shining example of freedom and democracy before WWII, either. Maybe we don't bother mentioning these very obvious historical circumstances. Instead, we can talk about what technological solutions exist already, or could exist in the near term, which would obviate these institutions of oppression. I am very interested in tools like Whatsat[0] and Sphinx[1] which protect com…

> migrate all my "real" searches to Tor (already pwnt) Can you please explain for someone not up to speed on the topic?

Not OP, but Tor uses proxy servers to hide your activity from snoopers as it is routed. Unfortunately, the FBI has seemingly found ways to track down users who used Tor (I think dread pirate Robert's of piratebay is the quintessential example)

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by dang »

BLKNSLVR wrote: post #10

So the US, with its Constitution protecting the people from its Government, is allowing this whilst also considering Edward Snowden a traitor? It seems something has shifted 180 degrees since WW2, and the US Government has quietly won the game where the goal was to shit on the entirety of the history upon which it was built whilst, at precisely the same time, pointing to the Constitution as the reason why "America is…

Please don't post generic ideological rants to HN. They're tedious, not what this site is for, and lead to worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by winslow »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #132
winslow wrote: post #77

It's clear that the government(s) haven't had people's interest for quite a while now. It's nice for us to vote and protest but we need to take things into our own hands as those forms have yielded little results. We need to build things and use software that are privacy first. Such as: DuckDuckGo Firefox Signal (actually secure messaging unlike whatsApp) Linux OS TOR Librem 5, is a great open sourced secure phone ex…

Brave ? https://brave.com/ (I'm asking, not endorsing)

Thanks for sharing. First I've heard of this company. It's definitely an interesting position as they look to be providing the browser (viewer) as well as the ad platform. It's unclear if they are hiding/replacing website ads with their own and how the websites are getting their revenue otherwise.

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by tossAfterUsing »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #128
tossAfterUsing wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Let's not act like the United States was a shining example of freedom and democracy before WWII, either. Maybe we don't bother mentioning these very obvious historical circumstances. Instead, we can talk about what technological solutions exist already, or could exist in the near term, which would obviate these institutions of oppression. I am very interested in tools like Whatsat[0] and Sphinx[1] which protect com…

> migrate all my "real" searches to Tor (already pwnt) Can you please explain for someone not up to speed on the topic?

https://www.theverge.com/2015/11/11/9719098/fbi-reportedly-p...

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by maerF0x0 »

trfhuhg wrote: post #108

This is fine. Humanity has been descending into materialism to develop intelligence for long time and is now crossing the midpoint. That's why there are so many "ends justify the means" types around us. Soon the humanity will start ascending back to finish the cycle and all those sociopaths will be gone.

I find your comment quite interesting, do you mind expanding on the "to develop intelligence" and the "finish the cycle" parts?

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by Enginerrrd »

dang wrote: post #145
BLKNSLVR wrote: post #10

So the US, with its Constitution protecting the people from its Government, is allowing this whilst also considering Edward Snowden a traitor? It seems something has shifted 180 degrees since WW2, and the US Government has quietly won the game where the goal was to shit on the entirety of the history upon which it was built whilst, at precisely the same time, pointing to the Constitution as the reason why "America is…

Please don't post generic ideological rants to HN. They're tedious, not what this site is for, and lead to worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Despite the fact that I agree with their sentiment, you're 100% in the right here. HN is great because it's NOT the place for that. Thanks for speaking out.

Re: The FBI tracking your browsing history without a warrant might be the beginning

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Post by komali2 »

shadowgovt wrote: post #58
komali2 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what GDP, geopolitical influence, or crime stats have to do with a theory that the values set down in the Constitution are degrading.

Did "you're fucked" mean the Constitution is degrading? That's, I believe, parent poster's point; without qualifiers, there's no conversation to be had on the topic. Because that is the dichotomy of early 21st-century America: objective measures of "how the country's doing" are at odds with subjective concepts like "Are we free?" You have to start by even coming to agreement that less "freedom" (and one should probab…

> You have to start by even coming to agreement that less "freedom" (and one should probably qualify that---freedom from what, freedom to do what) for more GDP, more safety, more prosperity is a bad thing.

We don't have to agree at all. It is a bad thing. If you think trading freedom for the right to more plutocrat oversight is good, what's the point of even discussing at all?

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