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Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by packet_nerd »

joobus wrote: post #39
uoaei wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, they're pro-people-who-call-themselves-Communist-and-also-have-a-lot-of-geopolitical-power-and-market-share. China is most certainly a capitalist state through and through, and Google is a money-grubbing company whose sole motive is profit. It really isn't hard to talk about these things in frank terms without resorting to silly culture-war-style name-calling.

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China has a stock market [1] and 389 billionaires [2], second only to the US. A decidedly un-communist state of affairs... In reality they are an authoritarian capitalist surveillance state.

[1] http://english.sse.com.cn/ [2] https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanponciano/2020/04/08/the...

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by foobarian »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #84
gerbal wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If this is true, follow the money. HN is run by a Venture Capital firm. What are their incentives? Who does the business have to keep happy?

> If this is true, follow the money Isn't it more likely it was flagged off the front page by overly-enthusiastic users? I'll also admit that this link, to a support thread, is more compelling than the Ask HN, where half the comments were questioning whether the phenomenon was actually happening.

> Isn't it more likely it was flagged off the front page by overly-enthusiastic users?

I for one wouldn't mind knowing if a large fraction of those overly enthusiastic users happened to be coordinated in some way.

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Post by baylearn »

missosoup wrote: post #41

There was a previous unrelated discussion about this just a few hours ago which was climbing to the top of the front page when I saw it. And then just vanished: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23221264 It's not flagged, it just went from #13 on the front page to invisible. In a single refresh. How does that work? Looking at the votes and age, it should be in the top 5 of both Ask and the front page. What's the m…

I also experienced this on numerous Chinese government-related posts in the past, where front page articles were not flagged, but quickly disappeared. Don't really have an explanation. Would be great if @dang can look into this.

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Post by hujun »

another fact, you know which population uses word "共匪"? people in Taiwan, this is actually very old word dated way back from early 1900s when Kuomintang was still controlling China; they call communist party "共匪", and keep using that term after they got defeated in China civil war, and fled to Taiwan island.

Re: Google deletes “communist bandits” from comments on Youtube

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Post by TrackerFF »

ddevault wrote: post #38

Google & YouTube employees on HN: how do you justify still working at this company? Enough of the cognitive dissonance. Face your choices and tell me how you square yourself with them. For shame.

I guess the same as consultants working for McKinsey, or bankers working for Goldman

"Not my department / group / office"

"Just a few bad apples"

I mean yes, those are valid points - and I'd imagine most junior workers being there just for the future (career) opportunities.

No junior engineer at google is going to have any say in strategic and political decisions like censorship.

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Post by atomashpolskiy »

missosoup wrote: post #41

There was a previous unrelated discussion about this just a few hours ago which was climbing to the top of the front page when I saw it. And then just vanished: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23221264 It's not flagged, it just went from #13 on the front page to invisible. In a single refresh. How does that work? Looking at the votes and age, it should be in the top 5 of both Ask and the front page. What's the m…

I've posted an AskHN about self-regulation mechanisms on HN just today and instantly got flagged:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23220998

Please upvote another attempt:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23223939

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Post by anoonmoose »

buckminstrix wrote: post #30

In other news, Youtube will soon be coming to China. Pick your adventure, which do you want? Youtube in CN or write whatever you like? You'll also get videos deleted if you include in them info against WHO advice.

As an American that's a pretty easy choice you're asking me to make.

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Post by newacct583 »

macspoofing wrote: post #44
nunodonato wrote: post #9

wow, three "google bans/deletes" on the frontpage today. Its never too early to start ditching everything google.

To be fair, Google is in a no-win situation. Post-2016 election, there has been enormous pressure put on Google (and Facebook and Twitter) to ramp up their censorship from the anti-Trump center/center-left/left. The mainstream media is on it too and relishes taking shots at social media every chance they get (the YouTube 'adpocalypse' was spurned by a hit piece by Washington Post against some minor doofus thing that…

Off topic, but this framing really struck me:

> the anti-Trump center/center-left/left

So... basically everyone who isn't a Trump supporter, then? Is that really how you see the world? The president of the united states vs. literally everyone else? And you've chosen the political side instead of the social consensus?

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