Good. Shut down the bootcamps. Stop telling people to learn to code. Lower the salaries. Move companies out of SV and spread across the country. We are long overdue for a bloodbath like 1999. It's not over until Level 10s are laid off and the computer science departments are empty.
Google to Slow Hiring for Rest of 2020
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#142Before everyone starts painting bleak picture, reminder: Facebook's Sandberg announced last week or so that they are going to do accelerated hiring spree this year, opening massive 10,000 more positions! Google as well as Facebook both depend on ads so I'm wondering why one is tightening the belt and other is moving full speed on expansion.
Google has too many projects, from wifi on Indian railways stations to dozens of messengers to a virtual phone service. Some of these units are going to suffer and I expect them to shut down. These people will then move to other more important areas.
I do not expect google's search business to go down.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google depends on advertisers to make money, and the writing is on the wall for these advertisers.
Maybe Google will start charging for their services. $5/mo for Gmail, $5/mo for Drive, etc.
Google charges when you hit your limit on these services, which may be being increased now (at least for Gmail) when everyone is staying home.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google depends on advertisers to make money, and the writing is on the wall for these advertisers.
Call me dumb, but are people not sitting around consuming advertising 10x nowadays? There's never been a better time to get someone's attention.
1. Demand has fallen off a cliff globally - this is far worse for companies than most realise, this has never happened before
2. All companies are facing a cash crunch, gov loans are slow to arrive and they have fixed costs like rent
3. Companies need to conserve cash, turning off ads is a click of a button, and given no demand, it's an obvious choice
This is going to be bad for google and Facebook if it lasts any significant amount of time.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lot of people are on Facebook and Instagram all day, stalking friends because there is not much else to do. There are only so many Google searches I can do in a day. Many of them end on Amazon where I may or may not purchase something.
It doesn't matter much if they spend much time on their platforms now if advertisers stop advertising everywhere.
Exactly right. For example, many media organizations right now are reporting record traffic numbers, but are struggling to make ends meet as advertisers pull out.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
I was rejected by an SVP at Google. Recruiter was surprised but said it happens. Said I did a good job and could pick a different role (wasn’t for SWE), got the offer the second time around but had to start all over and got passed to a new recruiter.
I wish I could want to work at Google, but, between the hazing rituals on the front end, the long lead times, and these mysterious vetoing robed elders on the back end, they make it so unattractive. I wonder whether their approach has been alienating entire large categories of people, and what diversity of ideas and influences they're missing as a result.
I'm in the same situation. That whole process makes me feel like a mindless cog about to enter a well oiled machine without the possibility to question some of those nonsensical steps.
Re: Google to Slow Hiring for Rest of 2020
#147Before everyone starts painting bleak picture, reminder: Facebook's Sandberg announced last week or so that they are going to do accelerated hiring spree this year, opening massive 10,000 more positions! Google as well as Facebook both depend on ads so I'm wondering why one is tightening the belt and other is moving full speed on expansion.
I don’t understand it either.
Facebook may well be the worlds most powerful sentiment capture and analysis engine ever built but Google tracks conversions and has pretty stellar sentiment capture/analysis capabilities.
Google appears to also have twice as much cash on hand as Facebook. Wonder what they’ll use it for if not to hire competent people to prevent them from starting the next big thing...
Re: Google to Slow Hiring for Rest of 2020
#148Before everyone starts painting bleak picture, reminder: Facebook's Sandberg announced last week or so that they are going to do accelerated hiring spree this year, opening massive 10,000 more positions! Google as well as Facebook both depend on ads so I'm wondering why one is tightening the belt and other is moving full speed on expansion.
> both depend on ads
True, but their value to advertisers depends on users. Facebook is likely seeing a massive spike in (ad-viewing) users, whereas Google a much more modest one. I'm sure Google Search and YouTube have gone up, but the former won't have gone up much, and the latter has not yet been profitable for Google in the first place.
> I'm wondering why one is tightening the belt and other is moving full speed on expansion
Neither needs to tighten belts. Both have enormous amounts of cash.
Re: Google to Slow Hiring for Rest of 2020
#149Before everyone starts painting bleak picture, reminder: Facebook's Sandberg announced last week or so that they are going to do accelerated hiring spree this year, opening massive 10,000 more positions! Google as well as Facebook both depend on ads so I'm wondering why one is tightening the belt and other is moving full speed on expansion.
> Sandberg announced last week or so that they are going to do accelerated hiring spree
That was a message to the stock market. In reality I haven't heard from a Facebook recruiter in a month now.
Re: Google to Slow Hiring for Rest of 2020
#150Before everyone starts painting bleak picture, reminder: Facebook's Sandberg announced last week or so that they are going to do accelerated hiring spree this year, opening massive 10,000 more positions! Google as well as Facebook both depend on ads so I'm wondering why one is tightening the belt and other is moving full speed on expansion.
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