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Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

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post #116

The webcam and video call market has stopped to improve like, 10 years ago. There's some exceptions, like the Brio, but they are worse and more expensive than a whole cheapo phone with 2 cameras. Overall we're mostly stuck with 1280x720 fixfoxus usb-2.0 crap. On the software side, things don't look better: UVC 1.5 finally does support hardware encode with bitrate control, but software support is scarce. Completely un…

Some of the first consumer level usb 3.0 webcams capable of 60 fps only came out a few years ago. Before that it was impossible to get such framerate on a webcam because usb 2.0 did not have enough bandwidth.

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

#142
post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You will also need a USB a-a cable that I didn't know existed or was legal. They exist, but are not allowed by the USB standard. The basic premise of the classic USB standard is that the A side provides the 5V power, while the B side consumes that 5V power. With an A to A cable, you are shorting both power supplies together. (USB-C changes that to resistors; IIRC, the side with the pull-up resistors will initially…

I’m slightly confused by this. At first you seem to be using A and B to describe whether the connector is male/female but in the next paragraph you use the letter C to refer to the shape of the connector. I assume in the first paragraph you mean a usb A cable with plugs on both ends

USB A and B are both connector types, just like USB C is a connector type. The letters have nothing to do with male vs. female.

USB A is a rectangle, and USB B is closer to a square. I've also never seen anything aside from female USB ports and male/male USB cables (aside from extension cables).

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

#143
post #116

The webcam and video call market has stopped to improve like, 10 years ago. There's some exceptions, like the Brio, but they are worse and more expensive than a whole cheapo phone with 2 cameras. Overall we're mostly stuck with 1280x720 fixfoxus usb-2.0 crap. On the software side, things don't look better: UVC 1.5 finally does support hardware encode with bitrate control, but software support is scarce. Completely un…

Home broadband has not improved much in the past 10 years. Home users simply couldn't stream a 720p video back then and most still can't as of today. So there is no point in making higher resolution cameras, that won't run 5 frames per second. Besides, high-end phones have very good cameras nowadays but they sell for a $1000 and upward. The typical webcam budget is rather in the $20-30 range. If you're willing to put…

This doesn't appear to be accurate.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/616210/average-internet-...

Anecdotally, my local ISP has gone from everyone getting 10/1 to 100/5 in the base package in the last few years.

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Home broadband has not improved much in the past 10 years. Home users simply couldn't stream a 720p video back then and most still can't as of today. So there is no point in making higher resolution cameras, that won't run 5 frames per second. Besides, high-end phones have very good cameras nowadays but they sell for a $1000 and upward. The typical webcam budget is rather in the $20-30 range. If you're willing to put…

This doesn't appear to be accurate. https://www.statista.com/statistics/616210/average-internet-... Anecdotally, my local ISP has gone from everyone getting 10/1 to 100/5 in the base package in the last few years.

Upload bandwidth for 95% of homes in the US is the same as it was almost 20 years ago. It’s so bad it’s not even advertised. If you have access to fiber, then you’re very lucky in the US.

I would also say 5mbps upload is hardly an upgrade. A single FaceTime call uses a couple mbps, so it’s probably just enough for that, assuming everyone in the neighborhood isn’t uploading too, which they are nowadays.

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

#145
post #68

Feels like Apple could boost their ecosystem by making great iPhone/macOS webcam integration. There's Kinoni's EpocCam and it seems to work, but it is a bit rough and requires installing their driver which I don't love.

I’ve been using CamTwist ( http://camtwiststudio.com/ ) for it after checking the alternatives. Even if old-looking it works well (in Catalina and Mojave) and has converted my old iPhone into a good-quality webcam. OBS studio is getting virtual webcam support soon (see a recent post about OBS studio) and will allow for that as well (I have tried the proof of concept implementation)

John Boiles has a proof of concept of the OBS virtual cam. I tried it out and it worked for me, although I had to build it and OBS from source. He has good instructions.

https://github.com/johnboiles/obs-mac-virtualcam

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

#146
post #44

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Just wear a gamer headset then.

I use a Sennheiser GAME ZERO for audio calls on a regular basis, including professionally, because the sound quality is quite good for voice. (I do also use it for gaming, and for music listening.) For audio calls they're not going to see it anyway, and I don't think most of the people I talk to would care if they saw it on a video call; the design doesn't scream “business”, but the red metal tracery is the only flas…

Same for me on the camera angle part: I have connected the work laptop to my private 4k display, but I'm not using the Logitech camera which sits on top of the 4k display (mostly because I would need to clean my "hobby desk" then, not really in the mood for that :-D), so I use the integrated one. This leads to me looking straight at the large display and the camera facing me from the lower right. Well... Could be worse.

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

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post #116

The webcam and video call market has stopped to improve like, 10 years ago. There's some exceptions, like the Brio, but they are worse and more expensive than a whole cheapo phone with 2 cameras. Overall we're mostly stuck with 1280x720 fixfoxus usb-2.0 crap. On the software side, things don't look better: UVC 1.5 finally does support hardware encode with bitrate control, but software support is scarce. Completely un…

I don't think it's hard so much as it's niche. I bet the vast majority of people use their phones or tablets for video calls.

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

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Nah, thanks, I have to do video calls with customers, they might find the flashing cat ears somewhat strange.

Maybe don't pick the furry one then. Headphones with mic from your old phone should do it too.

Got an inexpensive headset from Logitech. It's fine, but it's glossy white... Well... Guess you'll have to die one death.

Re: Tell HN: Toilet paper, hand sanitizer, and now web cams

#150
post #116

The webcam and video call market has stopped to improve like, 10 years ago. There's some exceptions, like the Brio, but they are worse and more expensive than a whole cheapo phone with 2 cameras. Overall we're mostly stuck with 1280x720 fixfoxus usb-2.0 crap. On the software side, things don't look better: UVC 1.5 finally does support hardware encode with bitrate control, but software support is scarce. Completely un…

Some of the first consumer level usb 3.0 webcams capable of 60 fps only came out a few years ago. Before that it was impossible to get such framerate on a webcam because usb 2.0 did not have enough bandwidth.

Personally I’d put a higher frame rate near the bottom of my wish list for a better webcam. First, improve low light performance, autofocus, white balance, dynamic range, and autoexposure. Once those are good then we can talk about frame rate and resolution....
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