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Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

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Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

#141

Please find a word that means "an ordinary piece of fabric that you can build yourself and wear if you're not sick". At least in France, "Wear a mask" would be understood as "wear an FFP2, surgical-level" mask. The kind of masks: * that we are in very short supply of at the moment (for various and sad reasons) * that we have to save for doctors * that everybody would try to buy on black markets if you asked them to u…

"Make a mask" instead of "Wear a mask". Build, don't buy?

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

#142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Until the government bans masks in public places in the interest of, you know "public safety"" The government did this long ago, as a reaction to the KKK wearing masks to intimidate their victims and hide their identity. So it's actually already against the law to wear masks in public in many places in the US. I've never heard of this law being enforced in modern times, however.

The situation is a lot more nuanced than that. I challenge you to find an example of a blanket ban on all masks, that doesn't rely on other factors like threatening violence, rallying, intent to hide identity, or a respresenting specific gang design/color. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-mask_law

'Intent to hide identity' sounds like a human right, criminalized. Unless asked by an officer, and even then in limited circumstances do I have to identify myself.

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kinda dumb point, since a healthcare worker is the one who gave me my single surgical mask in the first place. They don't want you to "donate" back a single used mask that your doctor gave you in the first place.

They also don't want you to keep using a single mask for weeks on end, which is likely worse than not wearing anything since they're a breeding ground for bacteria. They aren't designed to washed, they're supposed to be disposable.

You can actually sanitize and re-use masks by baking them at relatively low temperatures.

"If your mask is not made of flammable material, Lin said, you can try putting it in an oven for 30 minutes at 158 degrees Fahrenheit, because the coronavirus is fragile. Doing so can kill off the virus, and “it doesn’t destroy the mask very much,” she said, adding that hanging the mask above a pot of boiling water for about 10 minutes could also help with killing off the virus, but it would need to be air-dried afterward."

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/reuse-face-mask-coronavirus_l...

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

#144
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kinda dumb point, since a healthcare worker is the one who gave me my single surgical mask in the first place. They don't want you to "donate" back a single used mask that your doctor gave you in the first place.

They also don't want you to keep using a single mask for weeks on end, which is likely worse than not wearing anything since they're a breeding ground for bacteria. They aren't designed to washed, they're supposed to be disposable.

Of course. But worse for who? The mask is at least partially to protect you from my probably not corona-virus related occasional cough (unless that bad cold which has left my lungs weak I had in January was covid), which is possibly spreading a bunch of non covid shit around every two weeks in my only public outing to the grocery.

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

#145

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False - hand to nose mouth contact is THE primary vector for this illness - masks are very effective in reducing this. Please stop spreading misinformation as it could lead to deaths.

I'm not spreading misinformation. Most people don't bother to wear the masks correctly, and they provide a false sense of security and overconfidence.

Is the overconfidence documented anywhere, in terms of its effect? Is the problem avoided by having a reasonable sense of security?

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

#146

Please find a word that means "an ordinary piece of fabric that you can build yourself and wear if you're not sick". At least in France, "Wear a mask" would be understood as "wear an FFP2, surgical-level" mask. The kind of masks: * that we are in very short supply of at the moment (for various and sad reasons) * that we have to save for doctors * that everybody would try to buy on black markets if you asked them to u…

Try translating using things like face-cover / mouth-cover / facial protection / facial protection equipment?

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

#147

Apple should make FaceID better at identifying faces through masks so people aren’t tempted to remove their mask to use contactless payment.

Considering humans often use masks like these to conceal their identity, it's probably going to be difficult if not impossible to make it work reliably. For those using an Apple Watch it will be easier to pay that way.

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

#148
post #55

WHO still recommend not wearing mask, unless you are infected or caring for an infected person.

They do not recommend wearing a mask, which is different from recommending not to wear a mask. Edit: Here's the WHO's stance on wearing masks: https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2...

This is an unfortunate side effect of how it's worded in many English articles. And like a game of telephone, the precision is lost in communication in social settings/media and people are telling each other to not wear masks (at least that's what I'm seeing)

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

#149

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It's stupid. N95 masks are in short supply and so should be reserved for healthcare workers and those caring for the infected but sugical masks can still help slow the spread. People should be weraring those in public. But the only messaging from the top is not to wear the masks

There seems to be evidence that masks can make your exposure worse by trapping some amount of air containing the virus under the mask, making you more exposed. If you are sick they can protect others around you, but if you are healthy, less so. In that context the flip of public opinion makes some sense: as we go from assuming most people are healthy to assuming most people are sick, masks for everyone in public can…

> Also, don’t forget that in medical facilities N95 masks are fitted specifically to individuals.

Lets not over-dramaticize N95 masks. An N95 mask is just 95% effective. Its not N99 or N100.

N95 is the relatively cheap and disposable mask. Its "custom fit seal" is the little metal bar that you push down on your nose.

Here is 3M's official fitting video. Its actually not very hard to use: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05wyH1-mLGk

Then elastic bands shove the mask against your face, forming an airtight seal. This can be effectively replicated with a decent hand-made mask solution (although the filtration of a hand-made DIY mask is much much worse, and completely untested compared to N95 designs)

Given the fact that we're in an N95 mask shortage situation, I think DIY home-made masks are the only solution for the general public. It just takes some scissors and a T-Shirt to make.

Re: Masks4All: Wear a mask to stop the spread of Coronavirus (Jeremy Howard)

#150

Just, please please please make sure they're home-made masks. If you have any professionally-created surgical masks, you should donate them to healthcare workers, who need them much more than you. I live in Manhattan, and I still see people walking around outside with "real" masks.

Is there a site listing donation sites? I have a box of N95 masks from biking during wildfire season last year, and would like to get them to where they can be of use.
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