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Zoom iOS app sends data to Facebook even if you don’t have a Facebook account

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Post by Phlarp »

Polylactic_acid wrote: post #134
AnthonyMouse wrote: post #71

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> I really wish Apple would put an end to this. This is what really gives lie to the whole walled garden thing. Its selling point is supposed to be in Apple preventing things like this, but here we are in reality and they don't. Meanwhile they do e.g. prevent Signal from replacing Apple's default app for SMS, which has no purpose other than to create barriers for cross-platform competitors to the default apps.

Its incredible how blocking changing the default app on iOS isn't illegal. Its obviously insanely anti competitive.

It's like people forget "the bar" for anti-trust action used to be bundling the default app (web browser) with the OS (windows)

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Post by wideasleep1 »

dublinben wrote: post #117
somethoughts wrote: post #70

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Similar to how we have organizations which can certify whether produce is organic or not, we need organizations which can certify whether apps and websites are certified ad tracking free.

Exodus Privacy will tell you what trackers are present in an Android app. They don't certify apps as "ad tracking free" but leave that decision up to you. The only certification of being ad-free is probably to be open source as well, in which case there's a large selection of apps in F-Droid which meet that requirement. https://reports.exodus-privacy.eu.org/en/

1) Grab Netguard,

2) Donate to Marcel for key to get granularity

3) Turn off ALL apps, so when they launch they have no wan access.

4) Open each app one by one, noting what links and phoning home the app tries to perform

5) Watch in disgust as you begin to realize all of your efforts to secure your privacy up to this point has been in vain...antacids help.

6) Take control by granularly killing the links/calls in apps you decide to keep. Spotify calls FB, but you now can fix that. This is empowering but only a start.

R/privacy will make you paranoid, but a good place to get an idea what you are up against. I read Anon, join to post, and after some time delete my content, been doing that for decades now.

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Post by cpv »

fmjrey wrote: post #17

On Android the first thing you notice when you install a firewall such as NetGuard is the amount of applications that try to access facebook servers. It's mind boggling, probably 50% are doing so. And I'm not even on facebook at all.

Apps like netguard open the eyes.

And it was sad to see in facebook offline activity how much data was linked to me, from apps which have the sdk. And you don't even need to log in via facebook or like/share. The sdk being present and working is enough.

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Post by gowld »

ngold wrote: post #132
leggomylibro wrote: post #19

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It's past time for us to get serious and apply HIPAA-style protection to the storage and transmission of PII, without exemptions. Companies like Facebook will complain loudly that they won't be able to survive, but that is not our problem. If we pass legislation with teeth, they will need to change their business model. That would be the point.

People aren't allowed to go through my mailbox and sell that information. I don't see how this is any different.

They are allowed to look at you and take notes and sell them.

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Post by gentleman11 »

dahfizz wrote: post #99
danudey wrote: post #86

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If a company can't 'innovate' without sharing users' data with third parties or treating it recklessly through lax security (or uploading database dumps to publicly-accessible S3 buckets) then that company doesn't deserve to be in business. It doesn't take a suite of lawyers to enforce that, either. Health care is gigantic mess of bullshit in the US especially, because of the multiple different 'stakeholders' - custo…

I think you've missed your parents point. The problem they point out is that well intentioned businesspeople who want to provide you a useful service and store your data correctly are priced out. If you want to deal with medical data of any kind, you need a lawyer. Full stop. It doesn't matter how good your intentions are, or how many "best practice" blog posts you follow. You need to hire a lawyer, and lawyers are i…

We are trading the personal information of billions of people for the ability for tech startups to iterate quickly, who will for the most part decide on a freemium business model revolving around mining and selling private data

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Post by dx87 »

dahfizz wrote: post #99
danudey wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If a company can't 'innovate' without sharing users' data with third parties or treating it recklessly through lax security (or uploading database dumps to publicly-accessible S3 buckets) then that company doesn't deserve to be in business. It doesn't take a suite of lawyers to enforce that, either. Health care is gigantic mess of bullshit in the US especially, because of the multiple different 'stakeholders' - custo…

I think you've missed your parents point. The problem they point out is that well intentioned businesspeople who want to provide you a useful service and store your data correctly are priced out. If you want to deal with medical data of any kind, you need a lawyer. Full stop. It doesn't matter how good your intentions are, or how many "best practice" blog posts you follow. You need to hire a lawyer, and lawyers are i…

Not every business has to be viable for a startup. I'd rather a company that can't afford a single lawyer not have access to my personal information. If that means pricing them out of it through regulation, then so be it.
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