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Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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> “I don’t feel good about that. That sucks,” Chrys Bader-Wechseler reflects when asked about the bullying that went down on the anonymous app Secret he co-founded in 2013. After $35 million raised, 15 million users and a spectacular flame out two years later, the startup was dead. “Since I left Secret I feel alive and aligned with my values and my purpose again.” I wonder what his values and purpose are.

Hi,

This is a totally fair question. I appreciate you giving me the benefit of the doubt.

When I designed and built Secret, it was based on an early community of people who were sharing things we'd never see on Facebook or anywhere else. I was touched by the vulnerable stories and conversations people were having. People would come to me and tell me Secret changed their life in positive ways. This is why I continued to work on it and believed that it was possible for it to do good in the world.

Ever since I left Secret, those moments always stuck with me. And even to this day people reach out and tell me they miss Secret; what I hear is that people still have a need to share vulnerably. That's why I decided to lick my wounds and get back to work.

Last August I hit a peak of loneliness after moving to LA, and using Instagram all the time. I felt like shit, like I wasn't enough, and I was really hard on myself and self critical. This led me to an emotional rock bottom. It wasn't until then that I demanded self love from myself and built myself back up emotionally, and it was that process that inspired me to help other who might feel like I did at that difficult point last August.

Personally, some of my values are:

— People are inherently good. I believe everyone has a story and their own challenges, and if they can feel heard, they can feel accepted and become a healthy and thriving individual.

— Strangers are just friends waiting to happen. We can be quick to judge other people, but we should always bias to listening and to asking questions to better understand where people are coming from.

— It starts with self love. If you can't accept yourself, how can you ever truly know how to accept anyone else? Usually when we reject others, it's because we reject something about ourselves. I learned this lesson the hard way, and hope to bring more self compassion to others.

— It takes a village. Pursuing any mission in life is greater than any one person. When I built Secret, initially it was mostly my idea and I designed it myself. I think that's the exception to the rule. With what we're building now, we've received so much support that all I can do is empower and enable people to do what they love to bring this mission to life.

— Leave it better than you found it. Whatever situation you're in, do what you can to make a little better.

— Joy waits on the other side of fear. Often the things we are afraid of are gateways to self-discovery and fulfilling our potential.

I could go on, but these are just some that come to mind now. You can read about the values of our company on our website at http://ikaria.co

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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In a world where there are literal conferences on how to psychologically abuse people to spend money in your app I feel that I'd never trust any sort of app that aims "help my psychologicall health". Combined that with the fact that this whole "reveal article" has no actual substance and trying to sell me the idea and emotion rather than a feature makes feel that I'm being manipulated already and I hadn't even opened…

I am so tired of generic Tech Crunch articles like this that add no new/ meaningful information.

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>When you say "don't write this startup off" does that mean you believe it will actually help combat depression (i.e. are you that dumb)? How are comments like this even remotely productive or good faith?

Nearly every comment made by this user in this thread, at this time, is at odds with HN community standards, particularly as they related to tone and substance.

My apologies. I would go back and remove or edit them if I still could. I went overboard.

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I’m missing something, but number of divorces per 1,000 people (the “divorce rate”) does not control for marriage. It includes people who don’t get married, which makes the measure meaningless. I did some quick searching but did not find any statistics on divorce as a percentage of married per capita over time.

Luckily Germans like paperwork and statistics: https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/76211/umfrage... Can't speak for US / world. But I assume it's very similar.

The statistics for all this are extensive and easily obtained on the Internet, as you say they are similar, at least across developed, Western nations.

For the purposes of mental (and actually physical as well) health: getting married and maintaining a healthy marriage tends to have a strong positive impact on everyone involved (partners plus their kids). Whereas getting divorced tends to have a strong negative impact.

This means that on a population level, all other things being equal, you tend to want to have a lot of healthy, supportive marriages, and kids growing up in those marriages.

So, here are the marriage and divorce rates per 1,000 people in the USA since about 1865: https://robslink.com/SAS/democd80/us_divorce_and_marriage.ht...

Two facts to highlight:

1) From graph #2, the marriage rate is the lowest it's ever been in recorded history. Children are increasingly born into single parent households which tend to be less stable and lower income; the effect of having only one supportive parent will persist throughout their lives. Adults are less likely than ever to be partnered up with someone who will be there for them in hard times and "until death do they part."

2) From graph #3, the divorce-to-marriage ratio has been at or near record highs since the late 1960s. The number of divorces per 1,000 population has been highly elevated - over 3.0 - since 1969. What this adds up to is that for the past two generations divorce has been a much more common occurrence, and it is typically a traumatic event. Divorces further reduce the number of close family connections for everyone involved.

A valid point made in one of the responses to my comment is that not all marriages are healthy. It's certainly possible to have a marriage which is a net negative for one or both parties, maybe many of them. But I have rarely seen a rigorous attempt by people who make this point to quantify the net negatives generated by these marriages historically and compare them to the well understood negatives which accompany the current zeitgeist, which would be the intellectually honest thing to do.

To me the statistics couldn't be more clear, fewer people have close families, we are not creating as many new ones, and existing families are ending in divorce. All these things have been going on for two generations and have a greater deleterious impact on mental health than Facebook ever will. They increase isolation, loneliness, depression etc. Social tech is a shitty cope which is very popular in part because these social issues exist, but it doesn't cause them.

Re: Secret’s founder returns with anti-loneliness app Ikaria

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Sorry, I missed the parent thread.

This all started with a very simple question: Do we fundamentally believe that technology can help us create more meaningful relationships and increase our social wellness?

If we believe the answer is yes, then we absolutely must do everything in our power and ability to try to find the answer. That's why we decided to build Ikaria.

We are not ignorant to the value of real, in-person communication and interaction, and we're not trying to replace it. We've done deep research on the psychology of relationships and loneliness, and the mental health impact of it. The problem exists with or without social media, although numerous studies have shown the problem can be exacerbated by social media.

Since we cannot avoid technology, we must reclaim it and give people spaces where they can form healthy habits and healthy relationships with their phones and each other. Very much like the fitness industry was born from a junk food epidemic, it's time for a shake-up in junk social nutrition.

Our goal is to bring healthy relational practices to the forefront. Very much like Calm and Headspace have done for mindfulness and mental health, we would like to do for social health. From what we've seen, the behaviors we learn in a digital space are transferable into the physical world.

We are working directly with experts and mental health professionals to help inform our product decisions and include them from the very beginning. This is bigger than any one person or idea, and we believe it's going to take a village.

So far, in our closed beta, people are reporting feeling closer to everyone in their groups, increased levels of happiness, and a positive relationship with the app. (i.e. "This is the only app where I allow notifications other than text")

For me, personally, it's brought me much closer to my parents and I keep in touch with them more than I ever have. I'd love for more people to have that experience.

We welcome criticism and support equally, thank you to everyone who has shown interest and has shared their views.

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