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Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by mtm7 »

Firefox keeps getting better. I really want to switch. The only thing that’s holding me back is the design. It just doesn’t look as modern as Chrome or Brave. The back button is a different height than the search bar; the tab container doesn’t line up with the search from the left side of the window. And it has a weird mix of slightly-square and rounded buttons, which makes it feel like a second-class browser.

I know that the average person isn’t concerned with these things, but I spend almost all of my day in a browser, and I want it to look as good (or better) than the competition.

Re: Firefox 72.0

#142

Post by signal11 »

Vinnl wrote: post #123
signal11 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firefox is definitely an amazing experience, especially if you use Firefox Containers[1]. My only gripe is that the UX of containers isn't quite ready for prime time yet (e.g. your container setup doesn't sync by default). And there really needs to be an easy way to switch profiles. Firefox has had profiles for basically forever, but it's much easier to switch profiles in Chrome. [1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US…

One thing that might make it easier for you that you might not know about: about:profiles

I currently go to about:profiles and click "open this profile in a new window", but this is very klutzy compared to Chrome's profile switcher next to the URL bar.

Of course you can also create launchers/shortcuts for Firefox with "firefox -P profilename" but again that's work you have to do on each machine you use.

Re: Firefox 72.0

#143

Post by chinhodado »

abcd_f wrote: post #48

Re: picture in picture - anyone else here think that this feature doesn't belong to a browser? It just seems so... erm... random, basically. Looks like something that was cloned from some other product and rather crudely shoehorned in. At the very least it should have been introduced after an update and given an option to opt-in to using it, rather than automatically enabling it without any notice.

I absolutely loved it. When I switched to Firefox from Chrome not long ago I thought that's a new Youtube feature. It's fantastic.

Re: Firefox 72.0

#144

Post by rolodato »

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #84

Here's my Firefox wishlist: - Open new windows more quickly. Firefox feels sluggish (on Mac) even though it isn't, simply because it opens new windows far more slowly than Safari or Chrome. - Use the platform native key store. I don't want my passwords stored unencrypted on disk. But I don't want to enter a separate master password either. I do want to use fingerprint/face unlock on mobile to reveal passwords. - Give…

> - Give me a setting to autoconfirm all cookie consent requests and lobby for a legally binding do-not-track header. Cookie consent was well meaning, but it has turned out to make things worse. Let's move on.

This can be done with uBlock Origin and an "annoyances" filter list such as EasyList Cookie. It doesn't actually give websites consent to use of cookies, only hides the consent form.

Re: Firefox 72.0

#145

Post by bambax »

Twirrim wrote: post #40

"Firefox replaces annoying notification request pop-ups with a more delightful experience, by default for all users. The pop-ups no longer interrupt your browsing, in its place, a speech bubble will appear in the address bar when you interact with the site." That should pretty much kill off a lot of the notification request crap, especially if Chrome follows suit. I can envision the conversion rate massively falling…

I never accept any notification from anywhere on desktop or mobile (except some calls) and am all the happier. Don't let others control your agenda.

Re: Firefox 72.0

#146

Post by po1nter »

abcd_f wrote: post #48

Re: picture in picture - anyone else here think that this feature doesn't belong to a browser? It just seems so... erm... random, basically. Looks like something that was cloned from some other product and rather crudely shoehorned in. At the very least it should have been introduced after an update and given an option to opt-in to using it, rather than automatically enabling it without any notice.

I absolutely love this feature and the fact that I don't have to use a 3rd party extension is even better. It's also practical for websites that autopause videos as soon as you switch to another tab which I find ridiculous.

I'd love for them to add a progress bar and subtitle (think youtube, netflix or prime video) in the PIP window.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by Vinnl »

zamadatix wrote: post #72
giancarlostoro wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favorite since the 2000's (idk when I started using it, mom didnt let me install it on the home computer for ages) I tried Chrome earlier on but (and I've said this on HN before) it didnt have adblock, then when it did, it was crippled. I never went back.

Chrome still hasn't pushed Manifest v3, it's using the exact same web block extension APIs as Firefox right now.

It decrippled it later, but initially, adblockers in Chrome could only hide ads, not prevent them from loading.

Re: Firefox 72.0

#148

Post by rossdavidh »

mtm7 wrote: post #141

Firefox keeps getting better. I really want to switch. The only thing that’s holding me back is the design. It just doesn’t look as modern as Chrome or Brave. The back button is a different height than the search bar; the tab container doesn’t line up with the search from the left side of the window. And it has a weird mix of slightly-square and rounded buttons, which makes it feel like a second-class browser. I know…

You like what you like, but I just want to point out that as a Firefox-first user, when I switch to Chrome to check that whatever I'm working on is cross-browser functional, I am struck with how bad Chrome looks. So I think some of what you perceive as "modern" is just what you're used to, and a short time after switching it will not bother you.

But, of course, you like whatever you like.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by gdfasfklshg4 »

zamadatix wrote: post #116
School-Cotton wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> After the recent missteps by Chrome (mangling the display of URLs) Me too! I'm not as bothered by software-politics as many of the commentators on here (I don't hate Facebook, and worked there for four years; I don't hate ads; I don't worry too much about trafficking and privacy...) but Chrome fucking with the URL was a bridge too far. I switched to Firefox and when Google walked back their hiding-the-URL business,…

The problem is it's impossible to separate "this changed it sucks" from "this is actually bad" since the messages are always the same. E.g. in this case you didn't even bother explaining why the new way works worse for you you just said "it changed, I left! Make note!" and I mean that's fine if that's what you actually wanted them to make note of but no company with competition is just going to keep every workflow th…

The lesson is don't change for the sake of change.

Re: Firefox 72.0

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Post by jeltz »

40four wrote: post #77
nabergh wrote: post #42

My biggest gripe with Firefox is how it opens tabs. If I open a new tab in Chrome, it opens just to the right of the current one which is nice because it keeps related tabs together. In Firefox it opens to the far right which is annoying. I tried installing an extension to fix this but it was buggy. Only recently did I discover that I could dig into about:config to enable the behavior I consider expected (and I'm sur…

I already updated to v.72 so I don't know if they changed the default, never really noticed before. But now browser.tabs.insertRelatedAfterCurrent defaults to 'true'. I agree this is expected behavior :)

Damn, another option I need to change when I upgrade Firefox. :( I liked the old default. I think I will have to start writing a user.js.
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