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Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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I agree that ChromeOS needs some love. Recent updates have started to make my Pixelbook freeze and self reboot (while using Chrome only), Android support seems half baked still.

That said, I regularly use it over my MacBook and still is the best form factor laptop I've ever used.

Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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While Google hasn't been the best at supporting products (and support in general), I always find statements like this with sites like that distasteful, as they leave out a lot of context that mitigates how bad it is. Sure, Google is EOLing Hangouts, but they provide a replacement. Sure, they've turned down a lot of products (like reader), but many (possibly most of the very large number presented on that site) were b…

Here is the thing. Google has one primary source of revenue. Ad tech. If Ad tech fails, all their other sources of revenue won't be able to pay for their other services, so the fear they'll cut them is warranted. Disclaimer I use Google services, but I'm definitely looking for alternatives.

> Here is the thing. Google has one primary source of revenue. Ad tech.

This is changing though - the most recent quarterly report has YTD ad revenues as 84% of overall revenues, with the corresponding previous year's period at 86%. The non-ad revenues are in the tens of billions of dollars - hardly nothing.

https://abc.xyz/investor/

Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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is 500€ (tax included) considered high end? The first result searching for "laptop" with a 8 GB ram filter on Amazon.it is an HP 14s, with an i5-8250U, 8 GB of ram and a 256 GB ssd priced at 599€. The third result is the same but with an AMD A9, for half the price (349€). I would buy any of them with ChromeOS at that price (I'm interested from a developer point of view, especially for the Android subsystem) That's le…

> is 500€ (tax included) considered high end? These days it's upper middle for the U.S. I would say. For example the new top-of-the-line Dell consumer laptop, the XPS 13, starts at under $1000 (900€). When I got an XPS nearly a decade ago, it was a model they had at a considerable discount (as I recall it was an overstock situation or something) and it still cost me $1350. As far as I can tell, low-end, mid-end, and…

I'd consider 500€ the starting point for something that won't break down in an year here, upper middle would be around 700-800€. Keep in mind € prices most of the time include taxes (22% in my case), so...

Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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I don't think relying on a third party and especially one that is as fickle as Google to do the most basic workload is a sound idea. I won't be surprised if Google kills Chrome OS in the near future, as they killed a lot of stuff already[0]. I don't trust Google anymore. [0]: https://killedbygoogle.com/

While Google hasn't been the best at supporting products (and support in general), I always find statements like this with sites like that distasteful, as they leave out a lot of context that mitigates how bad it is. Sure, Google is EOLing Hangouts, but they provide a replacement. Sure, they've turned down a lot of products (like reader), but many (possibly most of the very large number presented on that site) were b…

And, as far as Chrome OS specifically is concerned...Yes, I'd be more than annoyed if they pulled support for my new PixelBook in anything less than a reasonable support window.

But my use of Chrome OS creates far less lock-in for me than most products. Other than my hardware investment--which I don't expect to last forever--I could basically switch to anything else with a browser next week basically without skipping a beat.

Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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How does it run on the x230? With which specs? Android and Linux subsystems are working?

Android isn't working on Neverware. Linux (crostini containers) and crosh both work. x230 is some old i5, 100GB SSD and some RAM. Battery is still OK and getting replacement battery for Thinkpad is no hassle. It works all right and the keyboard is a dream.

Damn, the Android side is the thing I'm interested the most (for dev purposes, not as an user)

Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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I use Chrome OS daily to do my job and I think it is fantastic. IMO it is the ultimate work machine for your average knowledge worker. At my company, all the software that we use is web-based (SaaS), with the exception of software engineers, who are using local tools to develop web based applications. For non-engineers, the OS provides an extremely simple client to use to do their job. The OS is a slightly better web…

I don't think relying on a third party and especially one that is as fickle as Google to do the most basic workload is a sound idea. I won't be surprised if Google kills Chrome OS in the near future, as they killed a lot of stuff already[0]. I don't trust Google anymore. [0]: https://killedbygoogle.com/

There not much relying involved. It's not like Android, which is considerably less useful without the Googley bits. It's just a regular Linux desktop with Chrome pre-installed.

Even if Google would kill all of Chrome in its entirety you could still run other software on it. You would lose secure boot but that's about it. It's more like a PC than an embedded system.

Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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Thanks. Looks like my old MacBook Air (model 6,2) is not supported, but its 11" variant (6,1) is. I'll give it a try when I return home from the holidays.

Don't worry about supported by Neverware. Mine Mac Pro also isn't supported last time I checked. But it works flawlessly.

I just found it curious that they would officially support the 11" and not the 13"

Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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I don't think relying on a third party and especially one that is as fickle as Google to do the most basic workload is a sound idea. I won't be surprised if Google kills Chrome OS in the near future, as they killed a lot of stuff already[0]. I don't trust Google anymore. [0]: https://killedbygoogle.com/

This is a confusing and boring take. A) You have to trust third parties. B) It's boring to point out what Google has killed. But when you look at that list there's nothing as substantial as ChromeOS. Finally, ChromeOS is incredibly widely used internally, and is a revenue generating product in the Chromebook family sold to enterprises alongside Cloud products. It is not an area where Google is going to capitulate or…

> But when you look at that list there's nothing as substantial as ChromeOS.

Google+ got way, way more investment than ChromeOS and was considered a top priority at the C-level. Still killed.

Re: Chrome OS has stalled out

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That is what I paid for an Asus Netbook 1215B, delivered with Ubuntu LTS.

Right, and for basically the same reason. Fundamentally ChromeOS is just another linux distro.

Except that Linux userspace is not exposed across all variants, and updates are limited to 5 years from model launch.
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