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Exactly the same list of reasons why manufacturers now only want to sell you smart TVs, and dumb panels are so hard to find.
Philips Momentum monitors...
Reviews are saying burnin is really bad with the 43" model.
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Too many people saying, “I have nothing to hide.” Also, people like “free” stuff.
It's not even a free problem, it's general pricing. Companies constantly seek ways to increase profits, while customers constantly seek bargain basement pricing.Electronic privacy is not a problem people have dealt with at large, I think. People also often view the competency of corporations much higher than the HN crowd typically does. I think this is the same for any category of information though. Informed people…
Mandate transparent disclosure.
Consumers don't care about these schemes because they largely don't know the details.
There should be clear, tobacco-esque disclosure requirements of this sort of thing on the product packaging.
If Samsung et al. want to data mine their customers in exchange for lower pricing, they're welcome to do so. What should not be legal is doing so and appearing the same as a company who does not do so.
Then the market can make up its own mind.
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#144Few reasons why I prefer dumb TVs, just a flat LED panel: 1. You have control over bullshit like this 2. You can make them smart by attaching the external box 3. You don't have to throw the TV because your Software is now old, just change the box. 4. There's new format which requires hardware support (av1 is coming), change the box. 5. Want to add new hardware? Upgrade the box.
What's to prevent you from doing the same with a SmartTV in the future? Just disconnect it from the network and keep a box plugged into HDMI1.
Smart TVs are already cheaper. If you don’t connect it you are basically getting the rebate you should get because your information is sold, but without uploading your information. If this becomes common manufacturers will need to ensure this hole is closed. I suspect TVs will soon be sold with big rebates that can only be redeemed ON the tv itself once it’s been internet connected for some time.
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#145Would this cover using your TV as a monitor only? Theoretically, the monitor could recognize/screenshot your wifi/account setup information (presuming passwords weren’t *-out), do recognition on it, and then log itself into your wifi while pretending to be a dumb monitor.
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What makes 5G so much different than an LTE modem for this type of application? If they were going to do this why wouldn’t it already be happening with LTE.
The signal should travel through walls better. It’s wider bandwidth and faster nitrate so it should be cheaper. All things equal with both factors above it should take less power (if for nothing else radio is on shorter time). If not part of the spec itself, it likely will coincide with from the get go. I have to agree that IoT (bleh. Coming from someone with an in-development connected device) will only become bigge…
> The signal should travel through walls better.
I'm pretty sure this is exactly the opposite: the shorter wavelength signals in 5G are line of sight, much more so than 4G.
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#147Few reasons why I prefer dumb TVs, just a flat LED panel: 1. You have control over bullshit like this 2. You can make them smart by attaching the external box 3. You don't have to throw the TV because your Software is now old, just change the box. 4. There's new format which requires hardware support (av1 is coming), change the box. 5. Want to add new hardware? Upgrade the box.
Which dumb 4K TV(s) should I buy?
Don’t. Good panels and quick onboard logic correlates strongly to being a “smart TV”. It’s better to buy a smart one and just not connect it.
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The video rental records were used to compromise a congressman from the ruling party. That's the only reason there is a specific privacy law for them. If you want a TV privacy law, you'll have compromise a congressman.
Slight correction; it was John Tower, a potential Defense Secretary nominee whose nomination was scuttled when a local paper got hold of his video rental records. He wasn't in congress at the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tower
What in the hell was he renting that ruined his career?
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#149How did we go from a country that made it a crime to share video rental records to one where everything you watch is constantly monitored and monetized?
It was the common man who shared video rentals yesterday, while it's businesses who monitor and monetize today. Just wait until you see how white collar crime is punished compared to street crimes!
OP was talking about rental records. That would be Blockbuster telling a marketer which videos you rented, not you lending a rented video to a friend.
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#150We are beyond fighting this with technical solutions. This can only be properly fixed via regulations and laws. Unless it can be proven that certain information is required for the product to function, it should not be collected. If it is required, it should only be stored for as long as technically necessary.
I am not familiar with the details of GDPR. Does it help in this particular case?