Preloads list is an absolute kludge that does not and will never scale and creates a huge deal of problems and works only for specific browsers. The task is not as simple as using DNS to store strict https flags(as DNS can be manipulated by intermediary), but hardcoding the lists in the browsers and keeping the lists in the chrome's code is definitely not a solution.
Still Why No HTTPS?
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Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#142Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
If the message is altered then the most pain anyone will have is connecting somewhere else for the first time If the page is altered so it loads 3rd party tracking code, then the pain is to be tracked. If the page is altered so it opens a "Please enter your ebay login" phishing site in the background, a user might switch tabs, think "Oh, I logged out of ebay somehow" and enter their password into the attackers site.…
If you can inject such content (as in an arp poisoning or other man in the middle scenario) why wouldn’t you go after the dns requests?
Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#144If I want to quickly host my page and use encryption, then I have go through all that hustle to make it work. Perhaps allow use of self-signed certificates on same level as http instead of blocking my website.
Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#145Some websites adamantly insist they did not need HTTPS because they are purely static. https://www.troyhunt.com/heres-why-your-static-website-needs... The same website to my surprise has an article on why this is faulty reasoning.
my static website is a sand castle in the beach. When I'm not around, kids may break it, or a random person may impersonate as its creator. That is alright, it is just a sand castle. The only purpose of its existence is to provide casual onlookers a nice view (or read) for a few minutes. Having to set up a "certificate" for that would be an unacceptable burden.
Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#146Why do browsers punish non-verified certs much harder than no-cert? If I want to quickly host my page and use encryption, then I have go through all that hustle to make it work. Perhaps allow use of self-signed certificates on same level as http instead of blocking my website.
Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#147Why do browsers punish non-verified certs much harder than no-cert? If I want to quickly host my page and use encryption, then I have go through all that hustle to make it work. Perhaps allow use of self-signed certificates on same level as http instead of blocking my website.
Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe you saw this, but you can make _acme-challenge.domainA.tld a CNAME to _acme-challenge.domainB.tld. Where domainB is a throwaway domain used only for validation. There are some TLDs that are pretty cheap per year.
That might be a step forward. Still a bit complex, but maybe worth considering. Would that work for mulitple domains? So I CNAME the _acme-challenge subdomain for all my domains to _acme-challenge.cheapthrowaway.com?
Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#149One potentially good reason to not force SSL: https://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2018/08/07/securing-sites... TL;DR: Secure websites can make the web less accessible for those who rely on metered satellite internet (and I'm sure plenty of other cases).
Trading security for convenience is rarely a good idea. The rest of the world should not conform the to failures of certain areas to provide internet.
That casual dismissal of davidmurdoch's counterargument comes across tone-deaf to people stuck on crappy connections.
Re: Still Why No HTTPS?
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not easy but iirc you can do it with a DNS-01 challenge, if your internal domain name is valid (doesn't have to resolve to anything though).
The problem is that I also have domains which are completely internal, not known/resolvable outside