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Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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Arguably better than nothing—kudos to nathancahill for doing something genuinely meaningful.

Also arguably worse than nothing as it could make people living in the area more complacent. In this case, I think it really depends on the use-cases and whether proper warnings are displayed.

I mean, you wouldn't just drive in to a lake if it wasn't on your map.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOW_kPzY_JY

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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With all due respect to OSM, isn't "the world’s best map data" an exaggeration? Especially if we count satellite images as map data.

To me, map data means just the data required to know what is where. I wouldn't count "satellite" images, geocoding, street view or anything like that as map data, but their own, distinct things. As it stands, OSM is one of the big 3 in that field, together with Google and Microsoft. Both of the latter might be as good when it comes to streets and buildings, but OSM destroys them when you also include hiking/bike trails, naval marking, traffic lights, power lines, etc. - some of which the other two don't provide at all.

Not to mention that afaik the "map data" itself isn't actually available from either MS or Google - they only sell usage of it through their limited APIs.

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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Is there anything that renders the mapps prettier? The difference between osmand and Google maps is jarring.

What do you find ugly about them? I actually prefer them to google maps! Also, the naming of the streets is often clearer (in google maps, there are too many streets without name, even if you zoom on them). The overall user interface, however, is often much clearer in the google app.

There's no hierarchy in the coloring. Everything is big and bold and it takes more effort to find the parts I care about.

The POI icons are huge. The text for obvious things ("New York City" when I'm staring at just Manhattan) is huge and unnecessary. There are too many shown at the street level. Every block has restaurants and bus stops. They're not labeled, just taking up a huge amount of space.

It feels like an old linux desktop, before they got usable.

The map is covered in visual clutter that takes too much effort to visually process.

I agree that Google Maps needs more street names, but that's my only complaint about the map. That's an easy fix.

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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I think if the machine was two dimensional and the photo had a measurement scale then it would be as good as a blueprint.

No, many aspects are not captured by a picture. E.g. borders.

A map that doesn't capture all information about an area doesn't make it not a map.

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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I think if the machine was two dimensional and the photo had a measurement scale then it would be as good as a blueprint.

The machine is not, and neither is the world. Even if it were, it would still not be as good. It would not tell you about materials, tolerances, or many other important things.

It isn't a requirement for a map to capture all characteristics of an area to be considered a map.

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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Maps.me is what finally has allowed me to mostly switch with offline maps, good routing, and support for all modes of transit I use consistently. https://maps.me/

OSMand+~ is a much faster smartphone client, that cares about your privacy and doesn't spam you with ads. You can find it on osmand.net, the F-Droid repository and the Play/ios store.

I do use OSMand a lot for my bicycle tours. I download the map for the area and keep the phone offline so nobody bothers me and the battery lasts longer. However when planning the itinerary I keep looking at the satellite view of Google Maps because I want to get an idea of the terrain and of what the streets and intersections really look like. Then I place markers on OSMand and use them when I'm cycling. Using OSM and nothing else would give me many surprises on the road.

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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Ok.. i want to serve tiles... ok, I go here: https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/ First option (Build a tile server using packages) ... i click on it.. ubuntu packages... i don't have ubuntu here, let's go back. Second option (Build a tile server from source), takes me here: https://switch2osm.org/?page_id=76 ... where is the documentation? How do i build it from source? Ok fsck it, let's try the "all in one solutio…

Good feedback, but FWIW I do believe that a docker container with Ubuntu is a no brainer. Sure policies might forbid it.

Hey I remember explicitly trying this option and the osm2pg instance died consistently after running for 4 hours. I could never figure out why. I worked on it for 4 days with no success.

I have no earthly idea how to get this to work.

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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Some countries are mapped poorly in OSM. Examples are: Mongolia and Cambodia. Many roads and buildings are missing.

Interesting, like I said I've never seen a country that isn't shockingly good. I travelled extensively in 35 African countries - including a bunch you wouldn't expect to get good data for like The DRC, Burundi, Sudan, Mali, Gambia, Djibouti, Ethiopia, etc. As well as Belgium, France, Spain, Canada, USA

It's pretty bad in my city in the U.S., or at least was a few years ago when I last tried to volunteer some editing time. Guess I should look again.

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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I evaluated OSM for an AR real-world strategy game (like pokemon go) I was building years ago (terramango.com), as implementing it would have saved hundreds of thousands of dollars. Problem with it in the US is that so many places don't have parcel boundaries, and if they do, they are often pretty far off from reality. We ended up using Google Maps (cost wasn't an issue yet because we were only in a private beta stag…

OSM should be big enough to scrape their own parcels / subscribe to someone who does at this point.

I wonder if this is still an issue... AR RTS is my use case as well, and the mapping is obviously a huge component.

I think Pokemon Go switched to OSM a couple years ago, didn't they?

Re: Switch to OpenStreetMap

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Not sure if you already know this, but you could also use data on whether the streets are lit or not. OSMAnd uses this for example

Funnily enough, that is one of the features it already supports (avoiding unlit streets). Another one is avoiding especially hilly routes.

Is "hilly" a simple binary indicator on each street (or section of road) or is there an entire layer of elevation data included in the world data?
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