They should've put this note at the very top of the page: "Mac OS only for now!". What is the point of promoting this to everyone at this stage?
Is there some technical reason it's only for os x? I'm not really upset they targeted Macs first but I am a bit curious why they felt a need to.
Firefox Replay
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Re: Firefox Replay
#142They should've put this note at the very top of the page: "Mac OS only for now!". What is the point of promoting this to everyone at this stage?
Is there some technical reason it's only for os x? I'm not really upset they targeted Macs first but I am a bit curious why they felt a need to.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
I’m talking about numerous issues that I had with linux kernel (and alikes) on desktops and workstations for decades. My story is freebsd 4.x-7.0, then debian (codenames I forgot), then OSX 10.5-10.9, then unbuntu/mint since ~ 2014-2016 maybe (when gpu and os updates broke it again). I also supervised an entire office of debian/ubuntu + printers & scanners for few years. I’m not what you would call a regular linux ha…
I've had more problems with my brand new (2 month old) macbook pro, than with my 5 year old home linux laptop.
One couldn't launch any games because one day out of the blue Windows installed a second graphics driver alongside their first one for no discernible reason. One out of the box couldn't connect any external monitors or get any signal from its HDMI port. One had its audio stop working, and I never found out what the problem was -- for all I know, it still doesn't work. Just the other day I was updating a laptop at work and discovered that every 3 minutes the mouse drivers would just stop working for 1 minute. When I upgraded a Surface Pro 3 to Windows 10, I ended up with 2 OneDrive folders and half of my documents permanently deleted. Then I had to download a 3rd-party firmware driver that was only rated for Windows 8 and wasn't linked anywhere from Microsoft's site to do touchscreen calibration again on the Surface device that Microsoft built.
Which, OK, I'm not going to pretend I haven't seen weird stuff happen on Linux. But these are officially supported devices that only have one job -- to work with Windows. And people run into these problems, go on to 4 year old abandoned Microsoft forums that tell them to start messing with their registries or randomly installing drivers, and then turn around and tell me that they can't use Linux because AskUbuntu isn't "real" support.
All of this is anecdote of course, but at the end of the day I make decisions based on which platforms by my experience cause me the most trouble. Linux causes me less trouble than Windows.
Re: Firefox Replay
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
Developers and computer geeks have been overestimating their influence for over a decade. If geeks were influential, the “year of the Linux desktop” would have been years ago, no one would be on Facebook, and people wouldn’t buy into Apple’s wall garden and people would care about “freedom”. Definitely no one would have bought the iPod since it “had less space than the Nomad and no wireless”. ( https://slashdot.org/s…
Not sure what you mean, but as an anecdote I quit using desktop Linux years ago and whenever I go to developer conferences, the majority are on MacOS and I think I see more people on Windows 10 than on Linux. That people wouldn't buy into Apple stuff is a big assumption, because we did do just that, for better or worse. Speaking of which, I see many more successful commercial desktop apps for MacOS than for Windows o…
" see many more successful commercial desktop apps for MacOS than for Windows or Linux combined"
Office profits by itself would crush all MacOS application sales.
Maybe it is easier for the single developer to create something profitable on MacOS but that's because the bigger players have marketshare over windows in the profitable niches.
Re: Firefox Replay
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
Developers and computer geeks have been overestimating their influence for over a decade. If geeks were influential, the “year of the Linux desktop” would have been years ago, no one would be on Facebook, and people wouldn’t buy into Apple’s wall garden and people would care about “freedom”. Definitely no one would have bought the iPod since it “had less space than the Nomad and no wireless”. ( https://slashdot.org/s…
> Developers and computer geeks have been overestimating their influence for over a decade. I It's a lot easier to get people to switch browsers than OSs.
When someone buys a computer that works after turning it on switching oses seems risky.
Re: Firefox Replay
#147I'm pretty happy to see Firefox pushing its dev tools in this direction. They've done a really great job with layout and styling tools, but their JS dev tools have lagged behind Chrome's. So even if this particular effort doesn't pan out for some reason, it's still very encouraging.
They're not just carbon-copying Chrome, and they're not just sitting back and ignoring the dev tools; they're trying to push them forward in some interesting ways.
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I don't know what you're talking about. I've used Debian, then Ubuntu for decades. I'm lucky I don't need the few commercial apps that hold people back, so I get the advantages of everything just working, with a good package system that whole time. These days so much is available in the browser or distributed systems, it's even easier. As for 1.77% (excluding ChromeOS and Android based desktop apps, of course), I'm g…
I’m talking about numerous issues that I had with linux kernel (and alikes) on desktops and workstations for decades. My story is freebsd 4.x-7.0, then debian (codenames I forgot), then OSX 10.5-10.9, then unbuntu/mint since ~ 2014-2016 maybe (when gpu and os updates broke it again). I also supervised an entire office of debian/ubuntu + printers & scanners for few years. I’m not what you would call a regular linux ha…
Re: Firefox Replay
#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
That Stack Overflow answer is poorly worded though, looking at an outer stack frame is really nothing like going back in time. Going back in time in the Firefox Replay sense means reversing execution of the program, e.g. to find the values of variables that have been mutated or gone out of scope.
But that's what drop frame does - it goes back to the state before your current function call, including resetting variables. It does not revert global state (like static variables) but it is essentially like reverting execution 95% of the times I use it.
Re: Firefox Replay
#150They should've put this note at the very top of the page: "Mac OS only for now!". What is the point of promoting this to everyone at this stage?
Is there some technical reason it's only for os x? I'm not really upset they targeted Macs first but I am a bit curious why they felt a need to.
"Almost all implementation work so far has been on macOS. Windows port work is underway, but is not yet working. The difficulties are in figuring out the set of system library APIs to intercept, in getting the memory management and dirty memory parts of the rewind infrastructure to work, and in handling the different graphics and IPC pathways on different platforms."
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