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Re: My Kid Lost a Game of 'Magic' to Its Creator But Scored a Piece of Its Art

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Post by YeGoblynQueenne » Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 10:44 AM UTC

scubbo wrote: post #138

YeGoblynQueenne wrote: post #111

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If I have a library, I must be a player. In that case, how do I get -5/-5? Players don't have P/T.

Form of the Dragon begs to differ... /s

Form of the Dragon "makes you a dragon" in the sense that your life total becomes 5 and it also deals 5 damage to a creature or player (but not planeswalker because there weren't any back then, as a card type).

But, a life total is a unique characteristic of players, not creatures, and it's not P/T, while the ability to directly damage a creature or player is distinctly different from the ability to _attack_ a player (and enter combat with a blocking creature). So no, Form of the Dragon doesn't make you into a creature.

I suppose a card that actually turned the player into a creature, now that would be a fun card and I guess it could be done without even a token to represent the creature since you have the person's own body as a physical representation. You could get vigilance to avoid having to tap, because that would be awkward. Some people might misunderstand the ability of a creature to "attack" an opponent and that might cause some trouble. Anyway, probably a card for an un-set.

/p

(for pedantry).

Re: My Kid Lost a Game of 'Magic' to Its Creator But Scored a Piece of Its Art

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Post by city41 » Sun, Nov 10, 2019, 8:58 PM UTC

arvinsim wrote: post #132

city41 wrote: post #131

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I really have no doubt at all that Magic is the greatest game ever devised. However, I do think it was a better game in the early days before strategy and meta was disseminated so broadly across the internet. Each local community had their own deck styles and approaches, and a big part of the game was in discovering new combos and decks on your own. I feel that part is a bit lost these days.

I don't think information availability affected the game so much as the economic barrier. I mean, if people have infinite access to cards, there would be a lot of experimenting going around.

I think both are factors. In the 90s I'd estimate my Magic circle was about 100 people or so. Sure that's a lot of room for experimentation, but nothing like the millions of players today.

Re: My Kid Lost a Game of 'Magic' to Its Creator But Scored a Piece of Its Art

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Post by banannaise » Tue, Nov 12, 2019, 3:15 PM UTC

DonaldPShimoda wrote: post #22

Konnstann wrote: post #3

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My favorite sets are the Un-series specifically because the art and flavor texts are so quirky.

As a blue player, one of my favorite cards of all time is Cheatyface [0] from Unhinged: > Cheatyface {U}{U}{U} > Creature — Efreet (2/2) > If Cheatyface is in your hand, you may sneak Cheatyface onto the battlefield. If an opponent catches you right away, that player may exile Cheatyface. > Flying [0] https://scryfall.com/card/unh/30/cheatyface

Cheatyface is great because it's intentionally illustrative of bad game design. It's no fun to be constantly on guard for your opponent to cheat! MaRo actually went into this in a fantastic talk at GDC [0] a few years ago.

[0] https://youtu.be/QHHg99hwQGY

Re: My Kid Lost a Game of 'Magic' to Its Creator But Scored a Piece of Its Art

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Post by DonaldPShimoda » Thu, Nov 21, 2019, 9:44 PM UTC

moultano wrote: post #84

DonaldPShimoda wrote: post #24

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I don't think that's completely true; plenty of the new cards are quite imaginative. I think there's just a greater degree of imposed consistency in the design. For some counterexamples to your point, look at any of the art by Seb McKinnon.

>For some counterexamples to your point, look at any of the art by Seb McKinnon. His stuff looks fantastic, and does look a lot like the more "tarot" inspired art of early magic. Thanks for telling us about him! Link for the curious. http://www.sebmckinnon.com/illustration/2019/5/29/2019/5/29/...

(I'm not very good at responding to HN comments, but hopefully you'll see this!)

A few of my favorite pieces by him are Deliver Unto Evil [1], Soulherder [2], and String of Disappearances [3]. His art is just so wonderfully fantastical and different from everything else. I love it.

[1] https://scryfall.com/card/war/85/deliver-unto-evil

[2] https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/214/soulherder

[3] https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/72/string-of-disappearances