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U.S. opens a national security review of TikTok’s acquisition of Musical.ly

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Re: U.S. opens a national security review of TikTok’s acquisition of Musical.ly

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Post by freeone3000 »

EpicEng wrote: post #110
fruzz wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, as a Canadian consumer using American social media platforms, we're subject to American censorship policies. Tumblr / Facebook / YouTube being most notable in their filtering of LGBT content and suspending accounts of LGBT users, because of the American governments stance on human sexuality. This argument of who censors makes sense for Americans, but it's more about picking your poison for people from other c…

>we're subject to American censorship policies. Tumblr / Facebook / YouTube being most notable in their filtering of LGBT content and suspending accounts of LGBT users, because of the American governments stance on human sexuality No, you're subject to corporate censorship policies. Let's not pretend that individual platforms regulating content is the same as government censorship. Please show me how their policies a…

Those aren't being enforced, either! It's not hard to find tweets deadnaming or misgendering a person.

They're taking a fully US-centric approach, treating abortion as a political topic - see https://business.twitter.com/en/help/ads-policies/restricted... . You can't advocate for abortion in Canadian ads. Which is insane, considering abortion is fully legal here. Going down that list, it's "things that are controversial in America". It's absurd to apply the same policy globally.

Re: U.S. opens a national security review of TikTok’s acquisition of Musical.ly

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Post by dang »

thefounder wrote: post #49
nostromo wrote: post #30

I would support a wholesale ban on Chinese acquisitions of American companies until American companies are allowed to acquire Chinese companies (or otherwise operate in China). These ridiculous double standards from China are not free trade, and we should stop pretending it is.

Ha ha ha...the U.S doesn't like double standards. It must be a first. If you need examples think about human rights and international law not to mention trade.

Would you please stop posting political flamebait to HN? You've unfortunately done this repeatedly.

If you'd review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and make your substantive points more thoughtfully when posting here, we'd appreciate it.

Re: U.S. opens a national security review of TikTok’s acquisition of Musical.ly

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Post by unlinked_dll »

sgustard wrote: post #134
Merrill wrote: post #75

Musical.ly was started by entrepreneurs in Shanghai. Although it may have had US and Japanese investors, I don't think it was an American company. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical.ly >"It’s the first company to be headquartered in China, designed in China, but popular in the US," said Greylock investor Josh Elman. "Finally we’re seeing talented people who live in that ecosystem in that world and actually transce…

Well the Reuters article says it's a US company, as does https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/musical-ly .

It might have US based personnel/assets that are incorporated in the US but wholly owned by a foreign company

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Post by _u5xo »

pdabbadabba wrote: post #96
fruzz wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, as a Canadian consumer using American social media platforms, we're subject to American censorship policies. Tumblr / Facebook / YouTube being most notable in their filtering of LGBT content and suspending accounts of LGBT users, because of the American governments stance on human sexuality. This argument of who censors makes sense for Americans, but it's more about picking your poison for people from other c…

What are you referring to, exactly? There certainly is no enforceable law in the United States against LGBT content. There theoretically are restrictions on "obscenity," but they are virtually nonexistent in practice. The only law I can think of that resembles what you're describing in any way is our, indeed, quite aggressive ban on child pornography. And I'm no expert on Canadian child pornography laws, but I'll bet…

Sorry I may of missed your point? As a lot of right wing commentary (not saying that you are right wing) suggest when talking about LGBTQ they bring up child pornography alot. Why are you doing so as well?

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Post by fivre »

CydeWeys wrote: post #23

I'll never understand why (a) Vine was shut down, and (b) So many Americans are eager to rush out and use a Chinese social network. I suspect (b) can be explained primarily through ignorance.

We should have all gone to Coub, but for some reason Americans don't care for Lukashenko joke videos. Go figure.

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Post by unlinked_dll »

wongarsu wrote: post #97
joshgachnang wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have an example? The only things I can think of are illegal (like child porn) which everyone should be able to agree should be banned.

Europe is much more relaxed about nudity (exposed breasts in prime time TV are fine) but much more restrictive about violence and gore. Instead US companies enforce US standards on us. Even child porn isn't an easy subject. Everyone can agree that liking 12 year olds sexually is pedophilia and images about that are child porn. But when we are taking about 16 year olds it's muddier since we are taking about child porn…

>But when we are taking about 16 year olds it's muddier since we are taking about child porn outside of pedophilia.

It's not muddier. The issue isn't the nature of the people viewing the content, but the ability of the victim to consent to the creation of the content. There's no muddiness involved here - sexual exploitation of minors for the production of media is not ok.

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Post by hk__2 »

kart23 wrote: post #117
pdabbadabba wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are you referring to, exactly? There certainly is no enforceable law in the United States against LGBT content. There theoretically are restrictions on "obscenity," but they are virtually nonexistent in practice. The only law I can think of that resembles what you're describing in any way is our, indeed, quite aggressive ban on child pornography. And I'm no expert on Canadian child pornography laws, but I'll bet…

Pretty much all hate speech is censored on social media platforms. So is calling for or promoting violence against certain groups. Harrassment is also prohibited on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter. All American social media censors their users, most people just arent producing that type of content.

> Pretty much all hate speech is censored on social media platforms. So is calling for or promoting violence against certain groups. Harrassment is also prohibited on Facebook, Instagram and Twitter.

Social media platforms censor more than that. Try posting a picture of a nipple on Facebook.

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Post by Reason077 »

CydeWeys wrote: post #23

I'll never understand why (a) Vine was shut down, and (b) So many Americans are eager to rush out and use a Chinese social network. I suspect (b) can be explained primarily through ignorance.

> "I'll never understand why (a) Vine was shut down, and (b) So many Americans are eager to rush out and use a Chinese social network."

TikTok is a better app than Vine was. It has far more features (visual effects, etc) and does a good job of making them easy to use. This all translates into better growth and retention.

TikTok was also very well marketed. Lots of slick online ads that went straight to their target demographic. I'm not sure if Vine ever knew quite what it wanted to be.

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