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Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by FireBeyond »

tibbon wrote: post #46
blhack wrote: post #23

Wow, very cool! As others have pointed out, being under the weight limit set by the FAA is basically THE selling point. Ethical question: are DJI the good guys here working within the rules set out of the FAA, or are they running afoul of the spirit but staying within the letter?

Is Vespa working outside the rules/spirit of law of state DMVs by selling scooters that are 1cc under the requirement for motorcycle registration/tax/license? It seems like a pretty good analogy to me, with the main difference being a federal/state authority. I'm really not sure; and I could see arguments either way.

Similarly all the boats with mooring(?) motors that are 9.9HP.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by nwallin »

ctdonath wrote: post #84
dogma1138 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering the registration requirement in the UK is to register all drones above 250g in weight this one seems to have been designed as a loophole. As it weight 249g you don't have to register with the CAA and as long as you keep it under 400ft altitude and within 150ft from other people and private property you can fly it anywhere where there isn't a local limitation and it's not restricted airspace. In places whe…

Complying with a deliberately & precisely worded law is not exploiting a loophole, it's complying with the law.

"But your honor. The speed limit is 65 and I was going 64."

"You were exploiting a loophole. You may have been adhering to the letter of the law, but you were in gross violation of its spirit. We don't play games in this courtroom. Your fine is $250 and you owe $437 in court fees."

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

#143

Post by nwallin »

vannevar wrote: post #85
sneak wrote: post #15

As someone who wants hardware that does what I instruct it to after I have purchased it, regardless of the manufacturer's wishes, I don't think I can support buying DJI's otherwise-excellent products any longer. The firmware updates and activation locks and flight restrictions imposed by the DJI Go app are too onerous. If I buy a tool, and the tool now belongs to me, the manufacturer attempting to restrict my use of…

I upvoted you, not because I agree, but because you raised a reasonable point that clearly generated some intelligent debate. I think the problem is that modern technology has resulted in cheaply available "tools" (to use your term) that have the capacity to cause great and irreparable harm to large numbers of other people (see the comments regarding drones and airplanes, for instance), and consequently must be proac…

The potential harm that can be caused by a In most jurisdictions, the regulatory burden of a small quadcopter is significantly greater than that of an AR-15. The potential harm vs utility argument doesn't even register here.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by rrdharan »

sneak wrote: post #129
vannevar wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I upvoted you, not because I agree, but because you raised a reasonable point that clearly generated some intelligent debate. I think the problem is that modern technology has resulted in cheaply available "tools" (to use your term) that have the capacity to cause great and irreparable harm to large numbers of other people (see the comments regarding drones and airplanes, for instance), and consequently must be proac…

> We can no longer afford to leave the use of these technologies up to the good judgment of individuals, because there will always be a minority who can't or won't exercise it. Then why is it entirely legal for me or anyone else without a prior criminal record to buy a machine gun? Why, despite that fact, are no mass murders committed with machine guns? There is a large body of evidence and experience that refutes yo…

> Why, despite that fact, are no mass murders committed with machine guns?

Because it’s cheaper and easier to get and use a bump stock? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_Las_Vegas_shooting

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by headcanon »

bcheung wrote: post #109
headcanon wrote: post #7

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How windy is it where you live? I've flown the Mavic Pro over the Pacific and Lake Michigan through what I would describe as a "healthy breeze". I think its max wind speed is approx 22mph, but can't find a reference for it. I'd say rule of thumb is if you wouldn't want to eat a nice brunch in it, you don't want to fly in it. edit: Pretty sure it uses GPS, compass, and gyro to stabilize itself relative to the wind.If…

It was in the desert outside of Las Vegas. It was a pretty strong wind.

You're probably right. Too bad too, probably some good footage to be had out there!

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

#146

Post by jakecopp »

sepbot wrote: post #140
greenknight wrote: post #113

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unless you live in a country where speeding isnt common place ;) in Aus, atleast where i am, most people stick absolutely on the speedlimit.

Just to clarify, by Aus are you referring to Austria and not Australia? In Australia the road culture is so bad that they make dramatic TV shows about it and relative Youtube channels sharing dash cam footage of bad drivers are actually source of entertainment to many.

But Aussies don't speed as much as those in the US from my experience!

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by billions »

I will not purchase another drone until I can pull it out of my back pocket and throw it in the air, have it automatically take some fantastic shots of my friends and land back in my hand.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by chipsa »

post_break wrote: post #34
blhack wrote: post #23

Wow, very cool! As others have pointed out, being under the weight limit set by the FAA is basically THE selling point. Ethical question: are DJI the good guys here working within the rules set out of the FAA, or are they running afoul of the spirit but staying within the letter?

This is how all laws work though. Rifle minimum barrel is 16" so they make 16" barrels. Wifi can only put out X watts max, they put out the maximum by law. There are no ethics in following a laws minimum or maximum.

Usually more like 16.1" or 16.25" barrels. Since non-compliance can result in jail time, they give a bit of a compliance buffer.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by mbrameld »

barbecue_sauce wrote: post #69
folli wrote: post #57

I feel like an old man, when I say this (and maybe I am), but I'm starting to feel increasingly annoyed by drones in public. You hear the whirring of drones on a nice day by the lake, and sometimes even on some more popular mountain peaks here in Switzerland. For me it's almost as annoying as a mosquito in your bedroom.

I live in the northeastern United States. I have literally never seen a drone (consumer or otherwise) anywhere other than a Best Buy (or similar electronics retailer) still in its packaging.

I don't see them in the wild near where I live, but there was a Mavic flying around Alice lake in the Sawtooth National Forest up in Idaho a couple months ago while I was camping there. That's in a wilderness area where drones are prohibited. I've also seen one flying around Mt Roberts up in Juneau, AK.

Re: DJI Mavic Mini

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Post by lucy_gatenby »

jakecopp wrote: post #146
sepbot wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to clarify, by Aus are you referring to Austria and not Australia? In Australia the road culture is so bad that they make dramatic TV shows about it and relative Youtube channels sharing dash cam footage of bad drivers are actually source of entertainment to many.

But Aussies don't speed as much as those in the US from my experience!

That’s only because we regularly get very steep fines and penalties for exceeding the limit. Even by as little as one kph.
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