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Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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You can type it on arbitrary people’s computers, not just your own. Same reason text-editor default shortcuts are important. Not sure about discoverability. Probably they’d just mention the shortcut on the canonical page.

You still need to login in your account then, which can took a significant amount of time especially with 2FA. Then the time gain is so marginal it's insignificant.

Not if your app is structured in the way where you can use the create flow in the context of an ephemeral session, and then get asked to log in when you go to save.

But yeah, in general, apps don’t do that much, and I wouldn’t see many being pushed to do so just to add such a shortcut.

Maybe the case here is where the login will be automatic (e.g. OpenID Connect based)? So, in the case where you’d be using some random workstation, but you happen to be authed to it anyway, by e.g. creating a temporary browser profile and logging into the sync on that. But in that case, the browser sync would still give you access to your bookmarks....

Okay, maybe it was never about browser address bars at all. It seems like a lot of these blurbs on the registrar page are talking about how these things are equivalent to certain API calls you can make to these sites. So maybe the point here is to create memorable API endpoints, such that you can now do something like (not saying this works, but it might):

    sort -n mydoc.csv | http sheets.new
...where the API endpoint accepts your IO-stream as a POST or PUT request, and returns a URL of the generated document.

This would make more sense, because you don’t really have access to your browser’s bookmarks from a terminal; and you might want random agents that you write, which aren’t “logged in” in any particular sense (like a CI bot) to use these shortcuts as well.

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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But we already have .sh [1]! [1]: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.sh

But sh is not a top-level domain.

This is the first sentence of the wikipedia article linked in the comment you responded to: .sh is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Saint Helena

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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I think you might have wires crossed, .new is a domain. So if github buy repo.new then they can host on it. Good names are first come, first served If Pizzahut bought pizza.new they could host a webservice on there provided the webservice resulted in something new.

Yeah I get that, but rather than Google opening it up for open registration and having the usual domain land grab, they could have created domains for each action and allow service providers to register intents in their services for each action. It's going to make discovery of actions much harder if there are different actions for different providers. It will also mean the usefulness of the pattern will be limited ba…

They could have used subdomains:

dominos could register dominos.pizza.new and pizzahut could register hut.pizza.new

pizza.new could then list and search through all the registered subdomains (and would be hosted by google).

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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This is pretty normal, all registras have usage restrictions. Most are poorly enforced but googles reqs seem pretty reasonable, The problem with all registers is you have very little recourse. I quite like gsuite but if your only domain is bought as a google TLD on google domains with your gsuite account via google pay with google voice contact details and gmail contacts. God help you.

They seem quite different, restrictive, and onerous to me. In particular "registrations must have websites that are both live and compliant within 100 days of registration". You can't register a domain to use later, you have to get something up quickly, something that satisfies Google's vague "action" requirements.

That part is actually positive though - if you want to squat a domain for over 100 days too bad.

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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> all registras have usage restrictions. Sure, but I never saw anything as ambiguous as: * Be used for action generation or online content creation; * Take the user directly into the action generation or content creation flow; * Allow Google Registry to verify compliance at no cost. That some AI script with a failure quote of ~2% will verify your compliance wont help also. And the only way to get some human support i…

That still seems pretty reasonable. They want ".new" to be seen and used as an interaction element, not as a random TLD. E.g. if twitter would get one, twitter.new would bring you somewhere where you could directly start typing a new tweet.

As a user I don't think I'd ever go to .new directly. If you've got some other way to get users there from the main site, you might as well use a query string, path, subdomain or some combination of the three.

I'm not a web dev, but I've dabbled a bit over the years. So I guess I could be missing something. I'm sure the right marketing could make this work.

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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tesla.new where you can order directly online, yeh probably. That's I reckon exactly the kind of distinction I think they're going for. ford.new would make me go to a dealer so I think they should be able to never get one.

But when you can book an appointment at a ford dealer next to you that would be kind of "action generation". Or what is when Ford will never get ford.new, is it free to register by anyone?

> Or what is when Ford will never get ford.new, is it free to register by anyone?

Trademark law still exists, this is a solved problem.

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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post #142

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But sh is not a top-level domain.

This is the first sentence of the wikipedia article linked in the comment you responded to: .sh is the Internet country code top-level domain (ccTLD) for Saint Helena

I meant it's not a "generic top-level domain" like .com or .org so its semantic meaning is the "domain name for websites for St Helena." This is similar to the situation for .io, which was really intended for the British Indian Ocean territory but has been appropriated by the tech industry. I'm in favor of using generic TLDs if at all possible. I believe google also treat generic TLDs differently than country-specific TLDs.

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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bit.ly does not require you to be logged in to create a new short link, so they don't seem to be in compliance.

mail.new seems broken as well, it hard-requires an @google.com login.

Lol, looks like google engineers forgot about their entire g suite customer base.

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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Amusingly, they list these requirements on "whats.net" - a site which clearly violates these rules.

whats.new, not whats.net And yes, you're right.

Haha, whoops. I guess I type ".net" so much my brain autocorrected.

Re: Google Announces .new Domain Availability

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post #128

> That means that all .new domains registrations must: ... I don't get why anyone would want this over a regular domain with which they can do whatever they want with no restrictions. It's just another way for Google to control and have a say over other people's businesses. For sure we'll see again posts about people having had their product destroyed because Google cut them off with no way to appeal.

Because I can't buy pizza.com but now I have a shot at pizza.new I guess. Some companies are willing to jump through hoops if it gets them a good domain

The medium example seems quite nice, story.new
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