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Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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Chrome Canary is currently 79.0. The mainline version is 77. Edit: I wasn't able to reproduce in either, didn't dig into why

> Edit: I wasn't able to reproduce in either, didn't dig into why Not just drag 'n drop, but a drag 'n drop inside an iframe that points to a different domain.

I meant using the supplied jsfiddle in the ticket...

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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I switched to Firefox after they stopped caring about usability issues (like right clicking without releasing left mouse button deselects the text since v fifty-something on windows), the difficulties they created for ad blockers, the account integration fiasco, and so on. I know this particular bug seems to be an edge case that may happen with every browser, but when you are using Chrome, you should know that if an…

Given that Chrome ended Opera, and is effectively ending IE/Edge, people really need to take pause and appreciate and be thankful that Firefox is still around. I think the "shady shit" Mozilla has pulled lately are death rattles. I certainly don't expect it to be around in another 5-10 years. Firefox's tiny market share is all that stands between all the W3C and WHATG publications going from "standards" to "what Chro…

I think a lot of the shady shit y'all are all complaining about are annoying, but not anything CLOSE to the kind of red flags that should call for the end of a product.

Bad decisions does not imply evil decisions, nor does it imply death. Pocket? A convenience people may want that might have provided money, hat didn't invade privacy. DNS over HTTPS? The horror! They are trying to enhance privacy on the Internet but haven't done it perfectly!

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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I don't disagree, this is a great example. I think d&d can work in special cases where the distance for the item to travel is not too small (so that you wouldn't move things by accident), but it is also not uncomfortably far away so that you don't see the target and have to navigate to it while you're d&d-ing. I guess these limiting factors are what makes it tricky to get right. But what about selecting a card and be…

Click to select and move with arrow keys could be OK. We should measure times but my gut feeling is that if I already have my hand on the mouse or touchpad (in my case it's always a touchpad) then I can keep using it to move the card around without the extra time to reach for the keys. Gut feeling again: the keyboard could be more effective on larger distances because each tap of a key is a full movement of one row o…

Click to select and move with arrow keys could be OK

Oh god no. Like you already state, most people operate both the mouse and the arrow keys with the right hand, so your proposal adds a lot of unnecessary movement. It could work with click to select and with WSAD keys, but most office users wouldn't discover that mode.

I would much prefer navigation keys (arrow keys, page up/down, home, end) to select, shift+navigation keys to move.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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> I think the "shady shit" Mozilla has pulled lately are death rattles. Would you mind briefly elaborating on this? I wasn't aware that Mozilla had done anything apart from behave well.

Bundling Pocket, resetting default search provider back to Google on updates. Just a couple off the top of my head. I'm a long-time Firefox user, FWIW.

I use DuckDuckGo as my default search engine and it has never reverted back to Google. Perhaps it only happens on certain major updates??

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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Why would they ever do an IE6? They don't want to cripple the web as an application platform as MS did but move as much things as possible onto it.

"Doing an IE6" for Google would be quite different from what Microsoft did, who wanted the desktop to stay relevant. For Google the web is just an advertisement platform. If/When Firefix is gone, they will hold all the cards. "Doing an IE6" might mean removing support for ad-blockers. Or making Google DNS mandatory. Or have everything you do on the web be phoned to Google, to improve your advertising experience. Assu…

"Or have everything you do on the web be phoned to Google, to improve your advertising experience."

Chrome already does this.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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I have a very old Macbook that I keep around for occasional use. The latest version of Chrome has a serious performance problem with it. Every click on a web site brings up the spinning cursor and there are several seconds of latency. Safari on the same computer has no such problem, so it's not the age of the machine.

I reported the issue, after navigating several-second UI lag, but not holding my breath for them to fix something on an old OS/hardware.

It seems like every release of a Google product(the ones that I use anyway, gmail, Chrome, Voice) brings some downside/regression.

Can anyone recommend script blockers for Safari ? It was the main reason to use Chrome for me.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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Interacting with googlers is horrifying. He was ready to commit to the bad decision until he was threatened with a PR disaster of breaking the software used by "hundreds of thousands of school kids". I can't help but think that if a lowly dev like me were to report the issue the "won't fix" would've stuck.

They are very responsive to data. Hundreds of people saying "My app is broken" isn't data. Someone saying "based on a search of the top Alexa 1 million sites, this will affect 8% of users" will catch their attention.

As a Chromium developer speaking based on my observations, we're also responsive to fixing bugs that affect a small percentage of sites. The difference is prioritization, and whether we'll merge fixes back to stable branches for a respin.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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"should be prioritized" is a very subjective statement. Out of every 100 tickets, there is 50 people who believe theirs is the most important one. And we have over 200k tickets total (not all are bugs, many are resolved, but the scale is massive). If you think a bug is easy to fix, pleasez consider providing a patch.

I find it hard to believe you don't know that casually contributing to Firefox is ridiculously hard. The build system is borderline insane, building takes hours, and most importantly people who can approve your changes clearly have more important things to do and regularly fail to answer. I have tried contributing a couple of times. Thank you, no more.

Personally, I've found it easier to contribute to Firefox than it is to contribute to, say, LLVM.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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> I think the "shady shit" Mozilla has pulled lately are death rattles. Would you mind briefly elaborating on this? I wasn't aware that Mozilla had done anything apart from behave well.

How about enabling DNS-over-HTTPS, which routes your entire browsing history to a third party, based on selections labelled "OK, Got It" and "Disable Protection": https://github.com/mozilla/doh-rollout/issues/125 Don't get me wrong, DoH is great if you have a shady ISP. But it should be opt-in, not opt-out, since those of us who don't have shady ISPs don't want all our DNS queries centralized in the same place, to be…

For their release in the US it's assumed that your ISP is shady.

Re: Chrome 77 Breaking Drag and Drop Events

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+1 for Simple Translate. Simply select text, click the popup and done. I just wish there was option to quick change the output language (currently you can have like 2 target languages).

(I can't test now since I'm behind an evil proxy) seems like both are lacking the simplicity and elegance of Chrome's in-place translations

Well yes, when you (Google) control the entire vertical stack, you get nicer integrations like that.
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