I ran into that with my last test VM setup. Very annoying. I'm glad my daily driver is Ubuntu Linux for development. Went with the Dell XPS 13 Developer Edition on this refresh cycle and the hardware support has been perfect.
Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows
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Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows
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To the end user, what makes this model preferable to buying the operating system software? For some businesses higher up the stack, it makes sense-- e.g., people spend $X per month on the Adobe Suite, and people tend to enjoy that.
I really think if you explained this properly to most end users they will still want something like what Microsoft is moving toward. Let Microsoft worry about it, is what they'll say. Non-tech people don't want to buy and upgrade operating systems. They see the operating system as part of the device. I'd like to say selling operating systems to non-technical people doesn't work, but I'm not sure it's ever really been…
Sometimes selling operating systems to technical people doesn't even work! Last week, my friend got a new laptop, and he wanted to try out Arch along-side Windows (instead of Ubuntu like he usually did), but he accidentally messed up the boot partition the pre-installed Windows was using when he was installing it. I tried to convince him to just do a fresh Windows install with an .iso since he already had a license key (and that's technically not even necessary, since you can use Windows 10 indefinitely without registering it as long as you don't mind not being able to configure things like the theme and fonts), but he absolutely refused because he liked how the vendor-specific face unlock software worked and wasn't sure if he could get it with a fresh install. He ended up spending several hours figuring out how to repear the partition (which he ended up succeeding at). If someone willing to install Arch and muck around with bootloaders for most of a day still prefers to use preinstalled Windows, I can't imagine how selling operating systems separate from machines can possibly be the optimal business model for Microsoft to sell to non-technical people.
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#144Buy pirated Windows LTSC on ebay (or actual, if you have 260 usd to spare), it solves most of Windows 10 problems
Install Ubuntu.
Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows
#145Microsoft is clearly taking moves that enable "PC as a service". I imagine the end game is something like you pay Microsoft so much a month on a subscription, receive hardware that is preconfigured with and tied to your Microsoft account details or your company's Azure AD configuration and locked down with InTune, unhackable with properly implemented Class 3+ UEFI and Secure Boot, etc. You then purchase additional so…
To the end user, what makes this model preferable to buying the operating system software? For some businesses higher up the stack, it makes sense-- e.g., people spend $X per month on the Adobe Suite, and people tend to enjoy that.
> people spend $X per month on the Adobe Suite, and people tend to enjoy that.
I work in the graphic design industry, and I've got news for you... people do not enjoy Adobe's move to subscription pricing, and on the contrary still complain about it.
Anecdotal evidence, I suppose, but seriously... I haven't met a single person who prefers Creative Cloud to just buying the suites.
Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows
#146...and from what I can tell, their online account security is craptastic. Here’s a true story that happened to my family. My son is the only person in the house who uses Windows. For his game machine. He set up a Microsoft online account. It got hacked - someone set up a fake family and managed to get my son’s account listed under it as a child. As a consequence, he couldn’t install any new software. I’m not sure wha…
I'm almost certain that you were not talking to a real Microsoft employee. Most Fortune 500s have their helpdesks and customer service outsourced to the Tatas and Wipros, Cognizants and HCLs of the world, who may or may not further subcontract the actual bodies filling the roles. Quite frankly, first-level support is useless and ignorant; at best they have scripts for common issues, but to do anything you need to defeat their efforts to no-op and close the ticket, and instead get escalated to a real person with some agency and authority.
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They watch what companies like Google get away with to see how far they can push things. > Activity history helps keep track of the things you do on your device, such as the apps and services you use, the files you open, and the websites you browse. Your activity history is stored locally on your device when using different apps and features such as Microsoft Edge, some Microsoft Store apps, and Office apps. > If you…
> In some cases, your ability to access or control your personal data will be limited, as required or permitted by applicable law. How you can access or control your personal data will also depend on which products you use. > Not all personal data processed by Microsoft can be accessed or controlled via the tools above. If you want to access or control personal data processed by Microsoft that is not available via th…
It isn't a trustworthy company. I uninstalled VS Code and am going to start recommending Spacemacs, Sublime Text, Doom Emacs, Vim, or anything else. That page is also VS Code's privacy statement.
Linked here:
Re: Microsoft has removed the “use offline account” option when installing Windows
#148I just want them to let me pick my own god damned name for the home folder. I hate the weird shit they pick for me.
why do people still use windows? It's stupid and naive to ask that, but I keep wondering why devs aren't successful in getting changes made at their companies.
Well, I like Windows. I also like, and regularly use macOS, Android, iOS (well, iPadOS now) and Arch Linux. I don't have any interest in stopping my use of any of those operating systems.
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Windows remains the most convenient OS for video games, and given HN's userbase (mostly young men), I think a lot of people here use Windows.
Windows is also the arguably the domain of GPU related dev. I see lots of Razer laptops. They are small and same weight as a MBP but you can get a 2080 RTX (previously 1060 GTX). Even the newest MBA's GPU is not 1/2 as fast as the 3 year old Razer (and its peers)
That's right. We use Surface Book with NVIDIA for our laptops and Thinkmate / Supermicro PCs. All with NVIDIA. Our Hollywood clients need NVIDIA for video rendering and we write software in CUDA/C++.
Windows 10 really does work great. Seriously!
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#150Um, I just installed the latest Win 10 Development VM on Tuesday from a download of the image the same day, and it most certainly allowed me to install with a non MS account. I dont have the exact build number on hand, but its supposed to be the fast insider ring, from what I read.