Tesla Software Version 10.0 • Hacker News Board

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by disillusioned » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:24 PM UTC

acchow wrote: post #99

Negitivefrags wrote: post #16

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My hope is that now that Spotify is available to Americans (where the people who develop the software are) the integration will no longer be total garbage. The Spotify integration in v9 is so non-functional for me that I just use Bluetooth. It seems to have zero ability to retry on network failure, and once it’s failed, it basically doesn’t work again on that trip unless you want to reboot the whole MCU. Another reas…

Spotify is a Swedish company. Are its developers really mostly in the US?

They have a decent presence in NYC.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by jhallenworld » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:25 PM UTC

The entertainment system improvements are amusing. I installed an Android-based radio in my 19 year old ICE car for less than $300 and have all of these features.

For internet, you have to be in Wifi range, add a SIM card to the radio, or tether from your phone. (I tether or use the house Wifi).

It's fun to add a bluetooth OBD2 dongle, so I can watch vacuum/boost on the screen with the Torque app (or diagnose car problems, it is an old car..).

https://www.amazon.com/Eonon-Bluetooth-Navigation-Support-Sy...

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by dual_basis » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:25 PM UTC

fletchowns wrote: post #75

oflannabhra wrote: post #23

Is there a specific reason why Tesla refuses to integrate CarPlay or Android Auto?

Android Auto is very underwhelming. I don't even bother, since it requires you to plug in your phone via USB. After having a wireless charger in the car and at home, I never want to have to mess with a cord again.

That's funny, I didn't realize Android Auto wouldn't work in a Tesla, and now I am very hesitant to buy one. It works perfectly on my wife's car, I can use whatever apps I want (eg. PocketCasts, Spotify, Plex) and the integration with the other aspects of the car is seamless. Teslas are just now getting Spotify?!?! That's exactly the sort of thing I would expect with an in-house system, and exactly why I would want to avoid it. What about navigation? Are you beholden to whatever Tesla provides, or can you use Waze and Google Maps if you want?

I guess I would end up using my phone over Bluetooth, negating much of the benefit the large touchscreen in the Tesla provides, ending up fiddling with my phone to change songs etc.

People are going to point out the privacy issues inherent in using Android, and I understand the complaint, but Google already knows my speed and location at all times anyway just by virtue of having my phone on me. I don't think Android Auto would have any interaction with the cameras or sensors, since most other cars do not have them, but perhaps others can speak to this.

Regardless, this has really diminished my interest in getting a Tesla.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by jasoncartwright » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:26 PM UTC

chrisstanchak wrote: post #139

lazyjones wrote: post #118

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Imagine how much bandwidth they'd save if Superchargers with WiFi offered the latest software version cached locally at full WiFi speed to the cars...

CDN costs must be negligible compared to the cost of managing that.

Potentially the expensive cost they would mitigate is the mobile data

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by gameswithgo » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:27 PM UTC

bradlys wrote: post #128

gameswithgo wrote: post #21

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I used to be a huge enthusiast, drove mr2s, z06 corvettes, a wrx, bmw 3 series, autocrossed the competitively. Driving an electric tesla made all of those cars feel utterly dumb . If you drive cross country a lot or do long track sessions, I get it, tesla won't work well, but if you don't think an enthusiast would like a tesla, give one a try.

> I used to be a huge enthusiast, drove mr2s, z06 corvettes, a wrx, bmw 3 series, autocrossed the competitively. > Driving an electric tesla made all of those cars feel utterly dumb. Why do they feel dumb? I hear this kind of stuff but I don't get it. Do you still do all the things you did with your old cars but now with your Tesla?

instant torque available all the time. everyone loves big v8s because of this, electric cars do it more. and without any drivetrain lashing, no pauses or upsetting the car for shifting

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by pmarreck » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:27 PM UTC

bdamm wrote: post #68

navigatesol wrote: post #55

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Imagine describing sitting in a parking lot watching YouTube in your car a "joyous experience".

As strange as it is to a pedestrian such as myself, sitting in parking lots with the climate set to your liking, the doors locked, and a media on the screen, seems to be an increasingly popular past-time. I personally don't understand it, but cars selling to this use-case are seemingly more successful than cars that don't, and these parking lot homebodies are popping up more and more.

> sitting in parking lots with the climate set to your liking, the doors locked, and a media on the screen

Spotted the person who’s never supercharged a Tesla

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by AcerbicZero » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:28 PM UTC

ubermonkey wrote: post #112

oflannabhra wrote: post #23

Is there a specific reason why Tesla refuses to integrate CarPlay or Android Auto?

It's really baffling. The CarPlay experience in our Volkswagen is so good I cannot imagine ever going back to an automaker's in-house system. Even the ones in the luxury cars I've had -- BMW, Mercedes -- have been absolute crap compared to CarPlay. I don't even care that it requires USB.

I can second this. I've used both CarPlay and Android Auto in my Golf R, and compared to a few rentals I've driven recently its amazing how much better VW is at this.

Beyond just the normal controls (which can sometimes be hit or miss once you're in CarPlay/AndroidAuto mode) the extra little functionalities you notice are amazing. A good example is when using Google Maps I can zoom in/out by just pinching the touchscreen in the car, or I can use the physical dial (normally for changing radio stations) to control the zoom level, or scroll through selections. If you change contexts, what the physical dial control change along with them, and its really slick once you get used to it.

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by prongletown » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:28 PM UTC

smileysteve wrote: post #135

tidepod12 wrote: post #131

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Traffic rules don't just magically go away just because you enter a parking lot. edit: the parent comment edited his comment to include "no right way", which I'd like to address: it is very common (at least in every America city I've ever been to) for parking lots to have lanes that are very clearly marked for only one-way travel. These lanes, like the one shown in the video, are typically only wide enough for one ca…

Legally, they kind of do.

Not true. Depending on the state, many laws still apply, including:

- Accessible Parking

- Unlicensed driving (for example, shared private spaces such as parking lots)

- Drunk driving

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by pmarreck » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:31 PM UTC

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #53

dmode wrote: post #51

This is why I am a Tesla fanboy (although somewhat begrudgingly due to Elon's recent antics). They have made car ownership such a joyous experience. I am eagerly waiting to download this and go to town

Is it a joyous experience when you have to wait 1 month+ for basic replacement parts to arrive? How about when your consumer grade touch panel dies from heat and vibration?

I don’t know why this comment is getting downvoted. While I generally love Tesla, I recently had a wheel alignment issue that literally no other car repair shop could handle except for Tesla’s and I had to wait almost a month for an appointment while my tires continued to unevenly wear.

They are apparently currently in the “support hell” phase of growth... They’ll get past it

Re: Tesla Software Version 10.0

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Post by xedeon » Thu, Sep 26, 2019, 10:31 PM UTC

edm0nd wrote: post #130

xedeon wrote: post #93

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> fyi: all car forums are filled with negative experiences with that specific car. Which car and what forums? Care to post some links that are at least more than a week old? > The people usually go to forums to try to find help, not to espouse the greatness of their investment. Not true! There are a ton of bad experiences with lackluster customer service. I myself experienced it an posted it at teslamotorsclub.com (T…

I'm not OP but I've read a lot of long wait time for body repair & parts posts over in /r/teslamotors. Tends to be an issue that has slowly been getting better. For example: - https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/byc1gt/im_abso... - https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/8nqh2b/i_got_r... - https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/ae1goq/waiting... - https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/…

Your first link was for a NEMA 14-50 adapter and Wall charger order on the Tesla online shop and is not a car part? Which supports what I said regarding lackluster customer service. I'm not disputing that.

The last 4 examples are ALL collisions/accidents that involves many parts and a ton of body/structural work... OPs claim was "1 month+ for basic replacement parts to arrive"