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Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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post #108

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> the people who talk about USENET and IRC are people who don't want to be "updated" to what modern users demand. IRC is objectively terrible. If you ask a question, the only way to get the answer is if you stay logged in until someone answers you. That's like buying a phone that doesn't ring unless you're already holding it up to your ear, or an email client that deletes all your email unless you happen to be lookin…

I disagree with your false equivalency. IRC is akin to a cellphone without voicemail, as when your disconnected from the network (cellular or IRC) you just don't get communications. Scrollback and voicemail can be useful, but a good chunk of the population does not want either, hence unread backscroll and unconfigured/full voicemail boxes being very common.

>but a good chunk of the population does not want either

The largest Freenode channels I'm on like #node.js and #javascript have about 10 regulars max, myself included. It's pretty much dead for any purpose other than hanging out with a handful of curmudgeons feeding off a corpse out of habit.

Doesn't seem like "a good chunk" to me. IRC lacks the only feature I really care about in a chat network: new people to talk to, users.

I wonder how many HNers who praise IRC only like the idea of it but don't even use it these days, either.

And I haven't even heard HNers bring up usenet outside of downloading free shit so I know that's especially dead wrt this thread as a decentralized Reddit.

So it always makes me chuckle to see "yeah, well, some people like it like that!" which is apparently virtually nobody. Or it's like how my two friends and I loved the failed, abandoned supermall in my hometown because the three of us could longboard down its parking garage.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

#142
post #27

Y'know, the toll that all this activity takes on Reddit's servers gave me an idea for a sort of distributed Reddit. News links and stories assorted into topic-based groups, with the option for users to comment or respond to others' comments in a threaded discussion. It would be completely decentralized and belong to the users, not some central media company. We could call it Users' Network, or USENET for short. We co…

I lazily made my own little private server a couple days ago implementing this concept by stitching a usenet server to a web login/account portal.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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post #109
post #93

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"We are a startup that inherited a 15 year old website" was one of the things that resonated when I worked there. Facebook is Alexa #5 in the US and has ~40,000 employees. Reddit is #6 and has ~500 employees. Twitter is #17 and has ~4,000 employees. (Numbers taken from quick Google searches) They have some super talented engineers that work miracles with band aids and bubble gum. Edit: Yes I understand not all employ…

Not really a miracle. Reddit software is magnitudes simpler than Facebook. Not to mention the quality is often sub-par. For example, many hate their mobile app with a passion and search field could as well just not exist when I tried.

Their new redesign is so completely awful they have to have an option to “just show the old reddit” in your settings. If they ever take that away I think I’ll just stop using it, it’s that bad.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

#144
post #27

Y'know, the toll that all this activity takes on Reddit's servers gave me an idea for a sort of distributed Reddit. News links and stories assorted into topic-based groups, with the option for users to comment or respond to others' comments in a threaded discussion. It would be completely decentralized and belong to the users, not some central media company. We could call it Users' Network, or USENET for short. We co…

Could your system break the back of r/sanfrancisco? It has turned into tourist pics of the GGB, sunrises and double rainbows at the hands of moderators that want no dissent

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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post #53

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Citing UX in a thread about Reddit, the company with an almost universally hated redesign that moved away from a mostly text-based condensed format is... interesting.

Every user engagement metric has increased since the redesign. Unfortunate for some of us, and it doesn't preclude the metrics measuring the wrong thing, but that's reality on the ground. Same reason why Gmail is a bloated mess, because that's what the metrics show is wanted by users.

Where did you find these numbers? From what I've seen Reddit never released any sort of metrics other than saying one specific Audi ad campaign did like 10x better or something. And Alexa showed lower traffic, higher bounce rate, fewer pageviews per visitor after the redesign[1].

[1] https://i.imgur.com/6dMCwoJ.png

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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post #97
post #93

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"We are a startup that inherited a 15 year old website" was one of the things that resonated when I worked there. Facebook is Alexa #5 in the US and has ~40,000 employees. Reddit is #6 and has ~500 employees. Twitter is #17 and has ~4,000 employees. (Numbers taken from quick Google searches) They have some super talented engineers that work miracles with band aids and bubble gum. Edit: Yes I understand not all employ…

Meh... they could have rewritten the site from the ground up, including any sort of data migration, multiple times over by now. I have never worked there, but outside looking in, it seems like there is a significant lack of technical vision from them. Other big players like Facebook, Twitter, etc, are literally inventing pivotal parts of the modern web technical stack. What has come out of reddit?

> they could have rewritten the site from the ground up, including any sort of data migration, multiple times over by now.

Sigh, every. fucking. time.

> I have never worked there, ...

or anywhere else where high traffic is involved, right? It's always the people without any real world experience who come up with these BS claims about how everyone else is stupid and how it could be done differently.

> ... but outside looking in, it seems like there is a significant lack of technical vision from them.

Exactly. You are looking from the outside at it. If you really think they lack vision you could make tons of money working for them and fixing their site, but you already knew that since you're not lacking vision, am I right? Seriously there are lots of good engineers working at reddit, learn about their constraints first before pissing all over their work in an uninformed HN comment.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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post #93
post #12

Reddit is the only major social media/aggregator I can think of that actually has to go offline for scheduled maintenance still. I can’t imagine the kind of shitshow it must be internally. Imagine if Facebook or Twitter had to go down regularly for “maintenance”. Heads would roll.

"We are a startup that inherited a 15 year old website" was one of the things that resonated when I worked there. Facebook is Alexa #5 in the US and has ~40,000 employees. Reddit is #6 and has ~500 employees. Twitter is #17 and has ~4,000 employees. (Numbers taken from quick Google searches) They have some super talented engineers that work miracles with band aids and bubble gum. Edit: Yes I understand not all employ…

Wikipedia is one of the Alexa top 10 globally (above Reddit, which is #20) and has 300 employees.

Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

#148
post #97

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Meh... they could have rewritten the site from the ground up, including any sort of data migration, multiple times over by now. I have never worked there, but outside looking in, it seems like there is a significant lack of technical vision from them. Other big players like Facebook, Twitter, etc, are literally inventing pivotal parts of the modern web technical stack. What has come out of reddit?

> including any sort of data migration, multiple times over by now Someone's never done a data migration while serving 1M+ qps!

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Re: Reddit was down for over two hours

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post #97
post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"We are a startup that inherited a 15 year old website" was one of the things that resonated when I worked there. Facebook is Alexa #5 in the US and has ~40,000 employees. Reddit is #6 and has ~500 employees. Twitter is #17 and has ~4,000 employees. (Numbers taken from quick Google searches) They have some super talented engineers that work miracles with band aids and bubble gum. Edit: Yes I understand not all employ…

Meh... they could have rewritten the site from the ground up, including any sort of data migration, multiple times over by now. I have never worked there, but outside looking in, it seems like there is a significant lack of technical vision from them. Other big players like Facebook, Twitter, etc, are literally inventing pivotal parts of the modern web technical stack. What has come out of reddit?

Did you miss the part where Reddit has 500 employees whereas FB has 40000? There was a point in Reddit history where there was literally 1 engineer.
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