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Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by sjtgraham »

gambiting wrote: post #98
jmpman wrote: post #79

The concept has just one niche I can see (besides people who are scared of flying)... getting into downtown SF before 8am without the chance of your flight being delayed due to fog. If you absolutely need to be at a meeting at 8am, currently you’re flying in the night before, grabbing an Uber from SFO to a hotel generally close to your morning meeting, hoping you’ll get a good night sleep and then dealing with the mo…

>>having it drive out to Tracy each evening and parking in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Do American supermarkets not have any time limits on parking? In the UK every single supermarket will have a 2-3 hour time limit on parking with anywhere between £70-100 fine for parking there for longer.

If this is true these fines are unenforceable. Parking tickets/fines are allowed in UK law for breaking the rules on public land. Parking on private land is governed by contract law. For a contract to be legally binding it needs to consist of the elements of a contract: offer, acceptance, and consideration, i.e. payment. Which UK supermarket charges for parking?

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by rst »

rayiner wrote: post #131
kyralis wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because Republicans hate public transit. (And, to be fair, we rather suck at infrastructure for a variety of complex reasons, which explains part of the Republican resistance to such projects.)

High speed trains are “public” transit in the very loosest sense. They are way too expensive to be used by ordinary people on a regular basis. The California HSR was supposed to be $80-100 each way. Multiply that by four for a family trip and compare it to the cost of driving. And even that price is optimistic. A trip from DC to New York on the NER booked a month out for my family, two adults two half-price kids, is…

In countries with real high speed rail, this is not the case. Tickets on Italian Freccia trains are comparable to US bus fares between major cities. Acela in the US is expensive because it competes with planes - and laughably slow by world standards (not much faster than trains ran on the same routes in the 1950s).

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by gambiting »

a3n wrote: post #119
gambiting wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>having it drive out to Tracy each evening and parking in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Do American supermarkets not have any time limits on parking? In the UK every single supermarket will have a 2-3 hour time limit on parking with anywhere between £70-100 fine for parking there for longer.

So truck drivers don't overnight at UK supermarkets? What do they do when they can't park at a truck stop and they're out of legal driving hours for the day? I'm driving a semi truck. I'm parked in a Kroger parking lot in Fort Worth TX (in an out of the way corner), having slept here overnight. Kroger is unusual, I mostly use Walmart when I can't find "legitimate" parking, because the lots are generally bigger, near…

>> So truck drivers don't overnight at UK supermarkets? What do they do when they can't park at a truck stop and they're out of legal driving hours for the day?

Don't know, but certainly not that. Even the huge supermarkets with their spacious(for the UK) car parks are way too narrow for a large truck - the delivery entrance is usually elsewhere, you couldn't even make a turn with one in here - as an example, that's probably the largest supermarket with the largest amount of parking anywhere in my area - look at how small these intersections are, no way you would fit a truck here.

https://www.google.pl/maps/@55.0137268,-1.6641004,3a,75y,333...

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by objektif »

jackvalentine wrote: post #73
objektif wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Silicon Valleying to the max. Another event that may create vertical acceleration is being sucked into the sky by aliens. The question is what happens to the unresting guest when such event takes place?

Somewhere buried in their T&C is surely a disclaimer that their patented reduction of vertical acceleration technology is limited two mitigating the accelerative force that would move the captive primate (you) two inches.

Throw your insults at me, won't change the fact that their descriptions sound like there written by wework level scam artists (like you).

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by morganvachon »

a3n wrote: post #119
gambiting wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>having it drive out to Tracy each evening and parking in a Wal-Mart parking lot. Do American supermarkets not have any time limits on parking? In the UK every single supermarket will have a 2-3 hour time limit on parking with anywhere between £70-100 fine for parking there for longer.

So truck drivers don't overnight at UK supermarkets? What do they do when they can't park at a truck stop and they're out of legal driving hours for the day? I'm driving a semi truck. I'm parked in a Kroger parking lot in Fort Worth TX (in an out of the way corner), having slept here overnight. Kroger is unusual, I mostly use Walmart when I can't find "legitimate" parking, because the lots are generally bigger, near…

Walmart as a company is generally friendly to both truckers and "vandwellers" who use their lot for overnight parking. The only exceptions I've seen are smaller "neighborhood Walmart" locations and the occasional small town where the cops have nothing to do all night except harass overnight truckers and mobile home/van drivers.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by calbear81 »

Their 1st gen service offered quite a bit of luggage and equipment transport for free (bike or surfboard) so it was super interesting to me. You could get on Friday night and go to sleep wake up refreshed in Santa Monica, surf, get a hotel or what not. Party until Sunday night and then sleep and be in the office by 8am. No Uber rides needed necessarily and less wasted time getting to the airport on time etc.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by rayiner »

rst wrote: post #142
rayiner wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

High speed trains are “public” transit in the very loosest sense. They are way too expensive to be used by ordinary people on a regular basis. The California HSR was supposed to be $80-100 each way. Multiply that by four for a family trip and compare it to the cost of driving. And even that price is optimistic. A trip from DC to New York on the NER booked a month out for my family, two adults two half-price kids, is…

In countries with real high speed rail, this is not the case. Tickets on Italian Freccia trains are comparable to US bus fares between major cities. Acela in the US is expensive because it competes with planes - and laughably slow by world standards (not much faster than trains ran on the same routes in the 1950s).

High speed trains can be very expensive in European countries as well: https://www.latimes.com/local/politics/la-me-adv-bullet-fare...

> The French bullet train from Paris to Lyon is often cited as a line that is profitable, but it has a fare of 52 cents a mile. The German bullet train from Hannover to Wurzburg charges 46 cents a mile.

> On the East Coast, Amtrak’s Acela system, the closest thing to high-speed rail now operating in the U.S., charges an average of about 50 cents a mile for the 454-mile trip between Washington and Boston.

US bus fares are much cheaper. The exact same trip on the Bolt Bus would cost just $212 for a family of four, $0.11 per passenger mile.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by gorbypark »

gizmo385 wrote: post #130
z2 wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, this part is what got me: > "... Over the course of hundreds of trips, our software has mapped an optimal way to drive for your comfort. Combining this unique dataset with real-time tracking of vehicle stability, speed and location, Cabin Drive instructs each driver how to safely drive for optimal ride quality based on route and road conditions."

> optimal way to drive Isn't it basically just a straight interstate shot for the vast majority of the trip between SF and LA?

I think if you were focused on driving smoothly as to not wake sleeping passengers you could do a lot with software. It would be pretty easy to use an accelerometer to map road conditions and tell drivers that bumps are coming up and to slow down, or to switch lanes to avoid this pot hole, even while driving the same route.

Re: Cabin releases 2nd-gen fleet of sleeper bus from SF to LA and back

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Post by Retric »

synaesthesisx wrote: post #100

While this is a cool concept (especially the suspended, likely over-engineered sleeping platforms), I can’t see sense in the business model with this type of pricing. Cabin charges $120 each way for an 8 hour bus ($240 round trip), while you can get a round-trip flight for less than half that with any of the major carriers ($107 for LAX - SFO, $91 for LAX-OAK RT). As someone that regularly travels between LA and SF,…

It’s also effectively a hotel room. Few people fly out late Friday evening do much more than go to a hotel and crash that night.

It’s clearly got issues, but they don’t need to replace aircraft to be a profitable business.

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