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Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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post #137
post #46

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Everything that discourages designers from doing fancy things is good in my book.

By the same logic you could say that internet explorer was doing good things

No, the logic is: I want styled content on the Web and plain text in my emails.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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It would be really nice to have a small and simple markup language, say some markdown standard, to be the layouting language for E-Mails. No (external) images, just links, lists, headings, basic formatting. HTML E-Mails are a security nightmare, even if "only" CSS is "allowed" and JS/iframes/external images are not loaded.

You're basically advocating for text/richtext (aka text/enriched), which was originally proposed explicitly as a replacement for HTML in email. It failed essentially because everyone who didn't want HTML wanted only plain text, and everyone who wanted something like HTML was happy to just use HTML. Factoid of the day: Netscape added support for a tag to text/enriched bodies, and that support remains in every client t…

Looks like the comment remains there. :)

https://github.com/mozilla/releases-comm-central/blob/master...

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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post #137

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By the same logic you could say that internet explorer was doing good things

No, the logic is: I want styled content on the Web and plain text in my emails.

It's not a new problem and MIME was intended to give people the choice. Not everyone likes plain text emails or terminal email clients. The solution may be forcing email senders to include text/plain as well as text/html.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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post #54

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No markdown, but we had success with this one: https://mjml.io/ Try out the online examples.

We use https://foundation.zurb.com/emails.html It is essentially rows and columns, but the support has been great across Outlook and gmail, as well as mobile support.

The only problem I guess is that the last release was over three years ago, and some bugs are starting to show (saying nothing of any added features). The pace of the npm environment is moving so fast, that it's sometimes hard to even get a project up and running.

Things feel a little stale.

For example (from this week of my adventures with Foundation for Emails) Google Fonts almost sort of work for email, but there's just no real easy way to tell this framework to use them, or call any web font.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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post #8

It might be interesting to include "pine" and "mutt" as well, as a baseline of mail clients that do not support HTML out of the box. (At least with mutt you can set it up to automatically render HTML emails via "w3m") More importantly, though, I convinced all mail clients I use to just show plain text when viewing and writing my emails. Often there are HTML emails in which I do not see all the content, or content at…

Same for me. I have a 'newsletters' folder which is the only one for which mutt will try to show me the HTML part first. Otherwise, it's plain text.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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HTML in email helps readability, titles, lists, tables does help the recipient.

Nothing that cannot more elegantly be solved by using MarkDown ... ... or common sense.

As long as the varient of Markdown supports tables, vanilla markdown is laking in that area.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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post #8

It might be interesting to include "pine" and "mutt" as well, as a baseline of mail clients that do not support HTML out of the box. (At least with mutt you can set it up to automatically render HTML emails via "w3m") More importantly, though, I convinced all mail clients I use to just show plain text when viewing and writing my emails. Often there are HTML emails in which I do not see all the content, or content at…

Pine (or rather Alpine) does have HTML support built in and enabled by default.

Re: Can I Email: ‘Can I Use’ for email

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post #8

It might be interesting to include "pine" and "mutt" as well, as a baseline of mail clients that do not support HTML out of the box. (At least with mutt you can set it up to automatically render HTML emails via "w3m") More importantly, though, I convinced all mail clients I use to just show plain text when viewing and writing my emails. Often there are HTML emails in which I do not see all the content, or content at…

Doesn't (al)pine support html part out of the box (not sure, been a while since I used pine). I'd imagine support for more mime types that eg Gmail via:

http://alpine.x10host.com/alpine/alpine-info/misc/mime.html

But I might be wrong. I thought both pine and mutt would handle html through w3m or something?

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