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Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor

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Re: Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor

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Keybase Chat would make a solid choice as well. *I work for Keybase, but chose to work here because I love the mission / product.

My choice would be Keybase, or at least something that uses Keybase as its back-end in some way.

Just want to say that I adore Keybase. I think it needs a password manager like bitwarden/lastpass/1password, but a lot of the features are compelling to me. I really hope it gets widespread adoption because the app and the company deserve it, in my opinion.

Re: Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor

#142
post #109

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I doubt it'll change. The Rust team simply don't care about privacy. They've been knowingly and willingly violating the GDPR since it came in to force despite constant reminders of that fact.

> They've been knowingly and willingly violating the GDPR That's quite the inflamatory statement to throw out there without at least providing a source or two.

I'm guessing they are talking about this issue which has been open for a disturbingly long time: https://github.com/rust-lang/crates.io/issues/955

Re: Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor

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post #72

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Integrate it into Thunderbird Chat... when I used it for gtalk/XMPP it was completely acceptable for basic use.

thunderbird has a primordial matrix plugin already, but it’s very much a proof of concept. there are plans to make it much more :)

I didn't know about the matrix plugin for Thunderbird chat! Now THIS would be awesome! Beyond the regular, dedicated clients for matrix, this type of partnership/integration is what Mozilla and (other FOSS) folks outside the matrix/riot org. should try and advocate for. Sure, this brings increased usage of matrix clients, platforms, but could also bring more eyes to the overall matrix project - continuing a virtuous cycle!

Re: Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor

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Die? No, but it is slowly degrading. More and more the people in my old freenode chatrooms are idle or simply leaving. We've gotten so used to phone notifications and a persistent history, that IRC has fallen behind purely from a convenience factor. It's rock solid in what it does, I have zero doubt about that or your 15 year claim. But even if the protocol works, if the user base isn't being added to it will die eve…

You can have both notifications and a persistent history with the majority of IRC clients. Many public channels keep logs, even. If someone pings me (hilight), then I get an urgency hint. Most window managers handle urgency hints. I use openbox + xterm + irssi. I do get notified if someone pings me, and I can also add any arbitrary words for which I would get notified. With a small Perl script I could use notify-send…

Persistent history including things that happened when you weren't connected. Obviously logging is easy, this isn't about client logs.

With phone notifications, you not only need to work for things that happened while not connected, it's bad form to require a permanent connection on android and you can't do it at all on an iphone.

Re: Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor

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post #57

I have full faith that, if I had left a computer running, in the corner of my home, with an IRC client open, it would have been able to maintain a connection to Freenode (not continuously, but just work) for fifteen or more years. Personally I don't think IRC will ever be replaced. Well, it will, but it'll happen when my generation dies and gets fully replaced with the New Shiny. I _hope_ that some sort of real, prop…

Die? No, but it is slowly degrading. More and more the people in my old freenode chatrooms are idle or simply leaving. We've gotten so used to phone notifications and a persistent history, that IRC has fallen behind purely from a convenience factor. It's rock solid in what it does, I have zero doubt about that or your 15 year claim. But even if the protocol works, if the user base isn't being added to it will die eve…

> We've gotten so used to phone notifications and a persistent history, that IRC has fallen behind purely from a convenience factor.

I noticed myself using IRC less for this reason. I'd always run weechat on servers so I had the history but never thought to look for notifications these days.

I signed up for IRCCloud and it's been nothing but excellent so far. I can even connect weechat to it like a BNC.

Re: Candidates for Mozilla's IRC Successor

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post #125

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Mozilla is large enough that they could go over to the Zulip developers and ask nicely for what they need, and stand a good chance of getting it.

Even if it's just for a PoC with a 1/5th chance of being actually selected in the end?

What does PoC mean in this context?
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