Live data from Hacker News

Turn off DoH, Firefox

ungleich.ch

141–150 of 422 posts

Re: Turn off DoH, Firefox

#141
post #139
post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The other viable doh provider is google. Other’s timeout is simply not worth the request, in my experience. How does one choose from these two?

No, the other viable option is not enabling DoH by default.

privacy-wise, plaintext is the worst option possible.

Re: Turn off DoH, Firefox

#142

It's very disturbing to see the overreach that Mozilla has resorted to and the "privacy" argument (it was "security" before that...) being used to justify essentially ignoring system configuration. My ISP has more accountability than a company in another country. The correct way would be to standardise DoH and DoT and add support into it into automatic address configurations and operating systems. Exactly. If Mozilla…

> The correct way would be to standardise DoH and DoT and add support into it into automatic address configurations and operating systems. This is beside the point. Mozilla make a browser. They don't make the address resolution code for the underlying operating system. Operating system vendors are of course going to start to support DNS-over-https. You can disable dns-over-https if you don't want it enabled. Just go…

Thanks. I feel this should just be a setting on the settings screen. I use a PiHole DNS service at home which I want to keep using over this.

Re: Turn off DoH, Firefox

#143
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you too have ignored "it's trivial to change your DoH provider"

It's actually not, or am I somehow missing that this is a feature that Mozilla has announced as part of this move? Users who are not technical powerusers will not understand the real security implications of "Enable DNS over HTTPS", and right now I can't find a setting to change the provider anywhere in the settings dialogue, and about:config and enterprise policies are not something that regular users mess with.

Open settings and search for DNS. There will be a single button for you to click and "Enable DNS over HTTPS" is at the bottom.

Re: Turn off DoH, Firefox

#146

The only thing that annoys me slightly about this, is that I currently have a couple of pi-holes running at home (one for us, and one for the kids) and I have the Mikrotik setup to redirect any request for DNS to the correct pi (So even if they change the DNS on the device it still hits the pi) This is going to make that a pain - especially if they introduce it in the mobile version?

You should be able to disable the Firefox default-on DoH across your network by returning NXDOMAIN for use-application-dns.net [1]

I don't know how to configure pi-hole, but at the dnsmasq level you can do that with this directive:

  address=/use-application-dns.net/
[1] https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/configuring-networks-di...

Re: Turn off DoH, Firefox

#147
post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you too have ignored "it's trivial to change your DoH provider"

It's actually not, or am I somehow missing that this is a feature that Mozilla has announced as part of this move? Users who are not technical powerusers will not understand the real security implications of "Enable DNS over HTTPS", and right now I can't find a setting to change the provider anywhere in the settings dialogue, and about:config and enterprise policies are not something that regular users mess with.

But it is actually easy to change.

https://i.imgur.com/GuP5a8F.png

Re: Turn off DoH, Firefox

#148
Living in Russia, I, for one, welcome DoH and ESNI. I know I trust Cloudflare more than my government and ISP (The same ISP that routinely spoofs requests to inject ad pages/reminders to pay for service, nevermind all the blocked sites).

Re: Turn off DoH, Firefox

#149
I think dns (and many other "trivial" to implement sensitive services) should be a gov service. Preferably the eu and idealy made usable for anyone.
Post reply on HN