This is probably the least interesting new iPhone ever released.
The most interesting thing they said was they're finally shipping the phone with a proper charger.
iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
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Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
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Oh sure, I think everyone understands and expects this to some extent. But the Pro model should not have the same base storage as the non-Pro model. Especially with all the emphasis on the professional-level cameras on the iPhone Pro.
The sensors on the Pro model is still 12MPs. HEIC can compress the output of these sensors in an hard to imagine way. A movie takes around 60MB per minute in 1080p30. Photos are also somewhat negligible now.
I think it's still an issue for video. Who's buying a $1000+ "pro camera system" to record 1080p30? I'm sure the bitrates for 4K60 are still pretty high.
Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
#143Disappointing that the base configuration of the iPhone 11 Pro has 64 GB of storage. If you're going to call it Pro and talk about how you can shoot professional video, you can't ship it with 64 GB of storage. EDIT: Also, they don't let you jump to 128 GB. You have to go to 256 GB, for $150 more. I can see why they didn't talk about this at the event. People would have booed.
As long as you have a decent iCloud data subscription, all that 4k video quickly gets whisked away to the cloud. The 64GB on the device effectively houses installed apps and an effective cache of thumbnails and downloaded content. I have the 256 GB config and the needle basically never moves up from about 45 GB.
The one thing that bothers me is the 2TB max on iCloud storage... I'm not close to hitting it, I think I've used 250 GB, but I'm also not that far away either with all these super HD iPhone features. I wonder if they will add a new plan at some point.
Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
#144This is probably the least interesting new iPhone ever released.
I think the wide angle camera is pretty important if you're into taking pics
Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
#145Disappointing that the base configuration of the iPhone 11 Pro has 64 GB of storage. If you're going to call it Pro and talk about how you can shoot professional video, you can't ship it with 64 GB of storage. EDIT: Also, they don't let you jump to 128 GB. You have to go to 256 GB, for $150 more. I can see why they didn't talk about this at the event. People would have booed.
It’s not like 64 GB is useless. A lot of people don’t fill that... why make them buy more than they’ll use?
Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
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Because it has been that way for years? Why would people boo for the existing structure?
Why would people boo for a bad thing? I don't know. There's no excuse for under-speccing a $1000 phone and charging $150 to add a $40 NAND chip to it. ( Looks at Apple's profit margins and revenue ) Oh that's why.
I mean that's like booing the Lightning connector. It's a known quantity and is no worse this year than last year.
Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
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> About half of the people I help choose phones would be fine with 64 GB. There’s no point making them buy a bunch of flash memory they will never use just to get the better still camera that they want. But would you be counseling these people to get the iPhone Pro in the first place? I would guess that most folks who want the Pro would want more than 64 GB.
iCloud storage makes it fairly easy to not keep everything you've ever recorded on your phone, it really depends on the user. Back when you kept all your music and all your photos/video it was more critical to have a ton of storage locally. Most people buying the expensive model will probably opt for more storage, but for those that don't need it I don't see a problem with offering a lower tier.
iCloud storage costs money. If you want to back up a phone that has 64 GB of storage you're going to pay $36/yr or more. Keep your phone for 2-3 years, and you're paying $70-$100 extra. Might as well quadruple your storage and skip the cloud.
I have no problem with them offering a lower tier either. That's what the non-Pro iPhone 11 is for.
Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
#148Disappointing that the base configuration of the iPhone 11 Pro has 64 GB of storage. If you're going to call it Pro and talk about how you can shoot professional video, you can't ship it with 64 GB of storage. EDIT: Also, they don't let you jump to 128 GB. You have to go to 256 GB, for $150 more. I can see why they didn't talk about this at the event. People would have booed.
> I can see why they didn't talk about this at the event. People would have booed.
I doubt it, those events get gasps and thunderous applause over the most basic features that competitors have had for a while.
Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
#149They should have shoved a 5G chip in the Pro Max, give people an "I need that" reason to upgrade their existing phones.
Re: iPhone 11 Pro and iPhone 11 Pro Max
#150Disappointing that the base configuration of the iPhone 11 Pro has 64 GB of storage. If you're going to call it Pro and talk about how you can shoot professional video, you can't ship it with 64 GB of storage. EDIT: Also, they don't let you jump to 128 GB. You have to go to 256 GB, for $150 more. I can see why they didn't talk about this at the event. People would have booed.
As long as you have a decent iCloud data subscription, all that 4k video quickly gets whisked away to the cloud. The 64GB on the device effectively houses installed apps and an effective cache of thumbnails and downloaded content. I have the 256 GB config and the needle basically never moves up from about 45 GB.
The problem with keeping it in iCloud is how do you get it all out of iCloud? Say onto Linux, or into another cloud like Dropbox or Google Drive?