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We won't be using bank notes in 50yrs. Should be all digital.
I remember similar sentiments about am radio, paper books, vinyl records and the like but things tend to stick around.
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#143Honestly it’s just embarrassing when you killed him.
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#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
I remember similar sentiments about am radio, paper books, vinyl records and the like but things tend to stick around.
Most consumers don’t use any of those things any longer.
Vinyl is niche but pretty much everyone I know uses paper books/newspapers/magazines and occasionally radio. I'm listening to radio right now.
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#145The US needs some updating as well - see the kerfuffle about trying to get Harriet Tubman on the $20, which Trump nixed, because racism. He wanted to put her on a reissued $2 bill, but I'm not sure there's an appetite for that. Symbolism matters in this case, and Trump is clueless. I still like this concept from a while back: https://kottke.org/10/08/us-dollar-redesign Replacing GW with Obama might be a bit contentio…
> https://kottke.org/10/08/us-dollar-redesign
Wow, that redesign is really impressive! I hope something like it gets adopted eventually.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
And at that point (and I'm venturing into philosophy here so sorry about that) am I still me? If my brain has been downloaded (for lack of a better word) into another, am I living on in that other body or does someone else have my memories? I've often wondered this about Star Trek-style teleportation. Are those red-shirts really moving instantly from one place to the other or are they being incinerated on a coloured…
are you the same "you" that you were last night before you went to sleep? for all practical purposes, yes; if a perfect clone woke up in your bed this morning, it would make no difference to the rest of the world, and your clone would still have all the same problems and goals. but the best evidence you have that you are the same entity as yesterday's "you" is that you remember some events from the day. the teleporta…
THIS!
And I'm really creeped out right now. I was about to type this example too and then didn't at the last.
As a side note - My mind tends to race at night. Life has me so busy during the day that when I'm trying to sleep is the only time I get to do much thinking. Thing is, because I'm already tired I never remember much of it the next morning other than "I had a really good think about something last night". Given that I'll not remember, and no-one else will have known, it does seem philosophically compatible and biologically possible that the current me is in effect "dying" every night to make way for a "rebooted" version tomorrow. This is not inconsistent with what we know sleep to be.
The only difference is that there's still only one me.
With the transporter analogy, though, the physical matter is reconstructed at the other side from different matter, which means its a copy. The film "The Prestige" covers this difference brilliantly if you've ever seen it.
Finally, if this comment makes no sense, it's because I'm in bed and my mind is racing.
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#147These announcements always make me ponder about the people we'll put on bank notes or erect statues in honour of in 50 years and are alive and persecuted today but not recognized by society.
'Being persecuted' strikes me as a crummy reason to put someone on currency, it's more a sign of the times than a sign of gravitas.
Turing was accomplished enough that I think he deserves the recognition even had he not ended up unjustly persecuted for his sexual orientation.
I wish there was more focus in this discussion on Turing's incredible accomplishments and less on the lurid details surrounding his death. I'm fine with taking a stand to promote LGBTQ rights and left another comment here doing so, but I think it robs Turing of some of the respect he is due to frame the discussion here with an excess emphasis on his persecution.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most consumers don’t use any of those things any longer.
Most consumers don’t use any of those things any longer. Vinyl records, yes (mostly). I'm pretty sure the other two things are still in pretty wide use. [0] https://money.cnn.com/2017/04/27/media/ebooks-sales-real-boo... [1] http://www.insideradio.com/who-s-listening-am-radio-by-the-n...
Vinyl sales have been increasing considerably for a decade. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinyl_revival
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#149These announcements always make me ponder about the people we'll put on bank notes or erect statues in honour of in 50 years and are alive and persecuted today but not recognized by society.
'Being persecuted' strikes me as a crummy reason to put someone on currency, it's more a sign of the times than a sign of gravitas.
Strictly speaking, he didn't say it was. "Not recognized by society" in the present age is the thing these future awards atone for.
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#150Perhaps the continuing decline in the currency's value will give us an opportunity to see £50 notes more frequently. I don't think I've seen one more than twice in the past 12 years, and I get cash out less and less frequently.
You might be living in a bubble, fifty quid is much less than $100 and I see those notes all the time. Getting currency exchanged before a trip? They give huge bills. Buying a used phone or furniture from Craigslist? Are you going to pay with 100 twenties? New ATMs even ask you the breakdown of bill sizes you are want.
> You might be living in a bubble, fifty quid is much less than $100 and I see those notes all the time.
In 30 years, I don't think I've _ever_ seen a fifty pound note in person.
The Treasury noted in October 2018 that they rarely used for routine transactions[1]. You can see this difference in the value of notes in circulation. In the US, the vast majority (80.3%) of currency in circulation is in the form of $100 bills[2]. In the UK, there is double the value in circulation in £20s compared to £50s[3]. £50s only make up 24.6% of the value of notes in circulation.
[1] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45850135
[2] https://www.federalreserve.gov/paymentsystems/coin_currcircv...