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YouTube Said to Be Fined Up to $200M for Children’s Privacy Violations

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> I don't. if the fine is $50 and it costs $5 to park, I will pay unless I suspect enforcement is so lax that I have a >90% chance of getting away with it. That amounts to the same thing. You obey the regulations (pay for parking) except when you think it's cheaper not to. Companies do the same thing. Most of the time it works out, but sometimes there's a fine.

the above poster is saying that parking fines don't work so you gotta escalate and tow the person's car. I'm saying you don't have to do that, just hire a few more meter enforcement people and stick with fines that are proportional to the offense. personally, I think $40-50 is a reasonable fine for attempting to subvert parking regulations. if you park in a way that blocks a whole lane of traffic, you have caused a b…

You can see it every day in the cities. UPS/Fedex delivery trucks getting tickets every day. What happens? Companies simply pay the fines because it is a daily fine. So at say $100 per ticket it is just $3k/mo per truck to do deliveries. Since the company makes more than that per truck for that period of time it is the cost of doing business.

Want to stop it? Make this cost high enough to make it non-profitable. If a ticket for illegal double parking is $5k and not $100 then a daily ticket means $150k in fines per truck per month, which is definitely higher than the amount of money a delivery company makes per truck, so the company is going to avoid getting fines.

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Will this create a new virtual 18+ wall before you can view/access content/services. Not that it is illegal by any law to offer such services to those younger, just that the lawyers and the accountants sat down and concluded that the risks can outgrow the rewards. Be interesting how the industry and various platforms navigate this whole area, but I'm mindful that they may well just cut them off period as just less ha…

I'm not sure of your age but I grew up with the internet and this "18+ wall" has already existed for a long time. I don't think I know anybody who didn't lie about their birth year on a signup form at some point to get around an age check.

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the above poster is saying that parking fines don't work so you gotta escalate and tow the person's car. I'm saying you don't have to do that, just hire a few more meter enforcement people and stick with fines that are proportional to the offense. personally, I think $40-50 is a reasonable fine for attempting to subvert parking regulations. if you park in a way that blocks a whole lane of traffic, you have caused a b…

You can see it every day in the cities. UPS/Fedex delivery trucks getting tickets every day. What happens? Companies simply pay the fines because it is a daily fine. So at say $100 per ticket it is just $3k/mo per truck to do deliveries. Since the company makes more than that per truck for that period of time it is the cost of doing business. Want to stop it? Make this cost high enough to make it non-profitable. If a…

I live in a city, but I'm not sure I've noticed ups doing this. just to be clear are you talking about parking without paying or double-parking (a much more serious offense)?

if they're double-parking, do they do this because there isn't a reserved dropoff space? what do USPS trucks do when they deliver to these buildings?

Re: YouTube Said to Be Fined Up to $200M for Children’s Privacy Violations

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You can see it every day in the cities. UPS/Fedex delivery trucks getting tickets every day. What happens? Companies simply pay the fines because it is a daily fine. So at say $100 per ticket it is just $3k/mo per truck to do deliveries. Since the company makes more than that per truck for that period of time it is the cost of doing business. Want to stop it? Make this cost high enough to make it non-profitable. If a…

I live in a city, but I'm not sure I've noticed ups doing this. just to be clear are you talking about parking without paying or double-parking (a much more serious offense)? if they're double-parking, do they do this because there isn't a reserved dropoff space? what do USPS trucks do when they deliver to these buildings?

I'm talking about any parking violations, from not paying metered, to parking in the no parking zones, to double parking etc.

> if they're double-parking, do they do this because there isn't a reserved dropoff space? what do USPS trucks do when they deliver to these buildings?

USPS delivers significantly less often - typically there's going to be a single delivery vehicle for all USPS services, while FedEx/UPS/DHL will have a vehicle per class of service.

USPS also double parks, parks in a non-parking spots but they tend not to have tickets on their vehicles.

Re: YouTube Said to Be Fined Up to $200M for Children’s Privacy Violations

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Completely wrong, everything targeted at children (for decades) is regulated. If your kid is watching Sesame Street on PBS and an ad for The Sopranos appears - that does not happen for a reason. Uploading cartoon nursery rhymes and having an ad for drug trafficking come up is idiotic.

It very may well be regulated, sure, but what is completely wrong exactly? Parents are responsible for their children! Is this incorrect? We can go back to how parents blame everyone but themselves when their kid steals their credit card to buy, say, loot boxes.

Yes they are, but you're leaving out the most important point here. It's content SPECIFICALLY designed for babies. The onus is on the producer - whether it's toys, videos, ads - for us to have some regulation saying x is ok but not y.

By your method of thinking...let's just make everything OK for babies and let the parents decide.

That makes no sense...it's why society has laws (Why can't I go buy a bazooka in Europe? Because there are laws).

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Personal attacks will get you banned here. Would you please read https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules when posting to HN?

Can you highlight which part of my post was a personal attack?

> Stop clutching your pearls and start being responsible for yourself

Re: YouTube Said to Be Fined Up to $200M for Children’s Privacy Violations

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Will this create a new virtual 18+ wall before you can view/access content/services. Not that it is illegal by any law to offer such services to those younger, just that the lawyers and the accountants sat down and concluded that the risks can outgrow the rewards. Be interesting how the industry and various platforms navigate this whole area, but I'm mindful that they may well just cut them off period as just less ha…

I'm not sure of your age but I grew up with the internet and this "18+ wall" has already existed for a long time. I don't think I know anybody who didn't lie about their birth year on a signup form at some point to get around an age check.

That's kinda the point, the whole age verification avenue has no credibility and personally I've lied for privacy reasons as why do you need the day and month if the year is 18+.

But the area of concern I was raising was such walls being used for no other reason other than risk liability exposure dictated by liability insurance costs. That with age verification systems that are that do credable checks being an area of growth thru demand. Such systems will become easier to implement and the ability to just lie, becomes much more complicated. Hence people being cut off, not thru legal reasons, but for effect - accountants. That's the worry I was raising.

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Yeah right. The competition is doing so well. Try running a video hosting service within the frameworks of the law. It's still the most popular service by a longshot. Classic HN being delusional again.

Please don't break the site guidelines by snarking and calling names. Posturing above the rest of the community isn't helpful either. If you're posting here, you're as much "HN" as anyone. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Why is my account banned?

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Not at all. Those who have cars and can afford the fine consider parking fines to be a cost of doing business. Get a ticket, pay it on the web. Now if the car is towed that becomes a problem because just pulling out a credit card does not fix it.

I don't believe for a second that this represents the minority. One might be tempted to conjure reddit-like images of Chads and Karens who park their cars where ever, when ever, and for however long they like, but the majority of people aren't like this.

https://data.cityofnewyork.us/City-Government/Parking-Violat...

That's 11.7M violations for fiscal 2018.

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Please don't break the site guidelines by snarking and calling names. Posturing above the rest of the community isn't helpful either. If you're posting here, you're as much "HN" as anyone. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Why is my account banned?

I'm not sure, but if you email us we can probably sort it out.
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