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Cryptic, allusive messages from Hong Kong's wealthiest tycoon

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Re: Cryptic, allusive messages from Hong Kong's wealthiest tycoon

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Is the creation of the United States laughable? What was used in order to gain that freedom from Britain? Firearms maybe?

We're there tanks back then?

>We're there tanks back then?

No, we're here taking potshots at each other on the Internet.

Re: Cryptic, allusive messages from Hong Kong's wealthiest tycoon

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"From born to die, you will always buy Li Ka-Shing's goods" "If there's God in HongKong, his last name must be Li" He and other oligarchs raise prices and exploit profits from people. HK Gov tried several times to press down house prices (build public rental apartments provided by gov, called 新界东北发展计划 ), all failed. What's the funniest part is, HK GOV plan to dismantle the golf courses for building public apartments,…

I'd just like to point out to other commenters the context of where this opinion is coming from - that being that this user has a comment history that denies that the Tiananmen Square massacre took place.

This opinion is from a man whose father was one of the procession students that night. I don't think my opinion about HongKong is absolutely right, but I can say I know much clear about what really happened in Tiananmen Square in 1989. And those two things are irrelevant.

Re: Cryptic, allusive messages from Hong Kong's wealthiest tycoon

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Consider if you will how well we fared in Korea, Vietnam, and in the Middle East against farmers and normal folks. As a Texan myself, I'd like to point out that a large percentage of the United States military happens to originate from or was stationed in our great state. I happen to think we would fare quite well in your hypothetical scenario..

With Korea, the US basically conquered half of it and made it kind of territory or vassal. Vietnam would be the only victory for the belligerent. The Middle East with US intervention is pretty much destroyed, where Iraq is more or less a vassal state and Afghanistan is still out of control but more or less destroyed, and Syria is burning. In foreign cases the invading army will eventually leave the country if you can…

Iraq is hardly a US vassal state any more. At this point Iran probably has as much or more influence.

Re: Cryptic, allusive messages from Hong Kong's wealthiest tycoon

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post #73

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There will be nothing like guerilla warfare in Hong Kong though. Literally no one has any military experience there, and nobody owns a weapon either. It's just not Singapore. Meanwhile, the Chinese PLA certainly doesn't suffer from any manpower shortages to contain the situation when they eventually want to.

> There will be nothing like guerilla warfare in Hong Kong though. Literally no one has any military experience there, and nobody owns a weapon either. You don't need guns. Making car bombs and IEDs requires only determination and some practice. PLA as any modern army is poorly equiped to combat urban guerilla. Such a dense maze like Hong-Kong had never been experienced by any army. Loss of face for China would be co…

The people in HK have no training in any form of warfare, guerilla or not. They're just not mentally nor physically equipped to conduct any sort of warfare, especially against a superior power like China.

I doubt China ultimately cares about loss of face.

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How do you defend yourself against the Chinese army with just handguns and rifles? You can post the answer here, or better yet, sell it to Taiwan confidentially for billions of dollars.

Ask the Vietnamese.

In all fairness the Vietnamese had among the most battle-trained armies of the time, with massive manpower, enough of weaponry and extreme determination. Plus a difficult terrain. Equipment-wise they had infantry weapons, artillery, air force, aerial defense...

HK has maybe a difficult terrain?

Re: Cryptic, allusive messages from Hong Kong's wealthiest tycoon

#146

To the Chinese native speakers here on HN: how clear would the message have been to you, if you didn’t read the explanation on this website?

I knew the message "因果由國 容港治己" as it is now well known and well used slogan during the protest, so I picked it up quite easily knowing that there's a cryptic message in there.

Also, this slogan is often interpreted as protestor declaration for wanting HK independence.

Re: Cryptic, allusive messages from Hong Kong's wealthiest tycoon

#147
post #82

"From born to die, you will always buy Li Ka-Shing's goods" "If there's God in HongKong, his last name must be Li" He and other oligarchs raise prices and exploit profits from people. HK Gov tried several times to press down house prices (build public rental apartments provided by gov, called 新界东北发展计划 ), all failed. What's the funniest part is, HK GOV plan to dismantle the golf courses for building public apartments,…

Whataboutism-style rhetoric can contain valid points, which makes it all the more frustrating. If it didn't, I could just ignore it as propaganda from the ideologically committed. I guess it's just too much to ask for people to bring up their valid points in a way that doesn't intentionally derail conversations on often orthogonal topics.

Also note that if an opinion is almost perfectly correlated with a nationality, that is a reasonable cue to question its rationality.

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#148
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The second part seems pretty direct.

The discussion being entirely banned on Weibo also implies that it's deliberate. Try searching "李嘉诚发声" and you'll get a message saying "According to relevant laws, regulations and policies, this page is not found"

> The discussion being entirely banned on Weibo

I have also noticed sharing videos WeChat seems to be on whitelist mode 2 nights ago.

Speculation is that there were heavy traffic for sharing globally resulting in all videos on WeChat were temporarily shadow banned until individually approved.

Re: Cryptic, allusive messages from Hong Kong's wealthiest tycoon

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post #136

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> There will be nothing like guerilla warfare in Hong Kong though. Literally no one has any military experience there, and nobody owns a weapon either. You don't need guns. Making car bombs and IEDs requires only determination and some practice. PLA as any modern army is poorly equiped to combat urban guerilla. Such a dense maze like Hong-Kong had never been experienced by any army. Loss of face for China would be co…

The people in HK have no training in any form of warfare, guerilla or not. They're just not mentally nor physically equipped to conduct any sort of warfare, especially against a superior power like China. I doubt China ultimately cares about loss of face.

> The people in HK have no training in any form of warfare, guerilla or not.

In a population of 8 milion you will find more then enough smart, determined, intelligent people who can learn quickly enough and innovate.

The only thing that China is afraid of is the loss of face :-)

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