Live data from Hacker News

Apple Is Locking iPhone Batteries to Discourage Repair

ifixit.com

141–150 of 259 posts

Re: Apple Is Locking iPhone Batteries to Discourage Repair

#142

Despite all the HN comments, Apple's made an absolute killing and charges FAR FAR higher margins for their products in part because they design them so normal people don't get totally f'd over. And yes, the scam of a trash after market battery to make the iphone battery life look good is well known. And guess how many parents and grandparents then go to apple to "fix" something that has nothing to do with Apple? The…

Hassle of doing it on an Android phone?

I pop open the back and put in a different battery. No tools required. And it's even got a decent water proving rating.

Re: Apple Is Locking iPhone Batteries to Discourage Repair

#143

Apple makes increasingly disappointing products. I recently was looking at replacing my iPhone 7 Plus, but around $900 would get the next baseline model, for no real tangible benefits, and some tangible downsides like no zoom lens and being forced to use the face scanning. Sorry, I'll replace my battery and cracked screen and wait a couple more years, thanks.

You can disable FaceID and go with typed passcodes.

Re: Apple Is Locking iPhone Batteries to Discourage Repair

#144

Despite all the HN comments, Apple's made an absolute killing and charges FAR FAR higher margins for their products in part because they design them so normal people don't get totally f'd over. And yes, the scam of a trash after market battery to make the iphone battery life look good is well known. And guess how many parents and grandparents then go to apple to "fix" something that has nothing to do with Apple? The…

Hassle of doing it on an Android phone? I pop open the back and put in a different battery. No tools required. And it's even got a decent water proving rating.

I've been on Android since the OG Droid, and I can't remember the last time I had a replaceable battery. 4-5 years or more.

Re: Apple Is Locking iPhone Batteries to Discourage Repair

#145
post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hassle of doing it on an Android phone? I pop open the back and put in a different battery. No tools required. And it's even got a decent water proving rating.

I've been on Android since the OG Droid, and I can't remember the last time I had a replaceable battery. 4-5 years or more.

I don't buy phones that don't have a replacable battery or don't let me flash a custom OS. This is true for all my electronics tbh.

I had to upgrade my S2 after 5 years of service because it was getting too slow for the crap people call a navigation app nowadays. Now I'm on an S5 that has easily kept up so far.

Re: Apple Is Locking iPhone Batteries to Discourage Repair

#146

Despite all the HN comments, Apple's made an absolute killing and charges FAR FAR higher margins for their products in part because they design them so normal people don't get totally f'd over. And yes, the scam of a trash after market battery to make the iphone battery life look good is well known. And guess how many parents and grandparents then go to apple to "fix" something that has nothing to do with Apple? The…

> Despite all the HN comments, Apple's made an absolute killing and charges FAR FAR higher margins for their products in part because they design them so normal people don't get totally f'd over.

Explains the butterfly keyboards: Can't get fucked over if you can't type anything to fuck yourself over!

Re: Apple Is Locking iPhone Batteries to Discourage Repair

#147
post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think we are seeing the predatory behavior of scammers here. For example, you are claiming that just attaching a chip from an old apple battery to a new one should read as genuine in the phone. That is a total scam. The detection feature is tied to a chip, not to the cell chemistry itself. If chips from old iphone batteries are all it takes to show a scam battery is genuine, given the high volume of old batteries,…

Show a warning, click ignore and be happy. Display battery information regardless.

This. I bought a second hand phone off some guy who does phone repairs in my area. Didn't realize the fingerprint reader did not work until a few days later as I had never owned a phone that new that had one and did not know it was supposed to work. When I looked on the internet it seemed that the reason was the home button was swapped out but without taking the chip that ties it to the phone with it from the old button. Asked the seller and he admitted that the home button was swapped, poorly at that. I still can not use the home button to unlock even though the phone is not stolen and I own it. So I personally am not a big fan of apple locking parts down. I personally had an iphone 4s up until half a year ago. I still have it I just happened to get an iphone 6. But my iphone 4s I have put at least 4 screens on it, a new battery, a new set of speakers and a power button. I laugh at the amount of work I have done on it. It is my Theseus iPhone :)

Re: Apple Is Locking iPhone Batteries to Discourage Repair

#148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anecdotes are worthless, but in the past half decade the only people I know who have successfully replaced a smartphone or pad battery have been Apple device owners. Apple has an easy, clear, successful program for replacing batteries, and most find the pricing entirely reasonable. A friend did buy a Nexus 6P battery replacement kit from Amazon, but the process was so byzantine, and no shop was willing to do it, that…

You realize user replaceable batteries with removable back covers are still a thing right?

[deleted]

Re: Apple Is Locking iPhone Batteries to Discourage Repair

#150
I don't have a problem with Apple showing whether the Battery is replaced or using genuine Apple Battery. My problem is that replacement done by Apple is both too costly and too time consuming.

Current iPhone X / XS / XR Battery Replacement is $69, which is roughly double the price of being replaced on streets with similar battery. Now of course there are scammers who tries to replace a crappy battery, but going to well know Repair Shop normally prevent that from happening.

I would have no problem paying double the price for an Apple Store replacement, except not only would have I have to wait hours or days for replacement depending on which part of the cities, countries, world you are in. You will also have to wait and go into that awful Apple Store and try and get someone to help. What is an 30 to 45 min job elsewhere, in the worst case you could wait 45 min just to get someone in Apple Store.

Here I am paying double the price for worst experience.

But that is not the worst part.

Apple Refuse to replace your Battery if your screen is broken, has slight crack on the edge, water damage or whatever damage they claim it has. You will first have to pay and fix those damages. Again I am perfectly fine with paying to fix it, except more than 99% of times Apple will quote you a price roughly 30 - 50% of your iPhone's that is now already 2 - 3 years old. And it makes much more sense to buy a new one instead. ( This remind me of the so call logic board damage I had with MacBook Pro 2 years ago. Sometimes I wonder why I am still using Apple )

Post reply on HN