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Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by nullandvoid »

gonational wrote: post #121
MaysonL wrote: post #8

And the stock increased over 4% in after-hours trading, as increases in non-iPhone hardware sales and services overcame the decrease in iPhone sales. Earnings per share slightly beat the consensus forecast. An interesting quote from Cook in the press release: "The balance of calendar 2019 will be an exciting period, with major launches on all of our platforms, new services and several new products"

If one of these major launches is a MacBook Pro with the same (or better) specs (esp video graphics) as their latest MacBook Pro, but without a TouchBar, they will get at least $2,500 from me. If one of these major launches is an iPhone X-like phone with a thumbprint reader (home button or otherwise), they will get at least another $1,000 from me.

I do not think they will be getting any money from you!

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by noncoml »

gonational wrote: post #121
MaysonL wrote: post #8

And the stock increased over 4% in after-hours trading, as increases in non-iPhone hardware sales and services overcame the decrease in iPhone sales. Earnings per share slightly beat the consensus forecast. An interesting quote from Cook in the press release: "The balance of calendar 2019 will be an exciting period, with major launches on all of our platforms, new services and several new products"

If one of these major launches is a MacBook Pro with the same (or better) specs (esp video graphics) as their latest MacBook Pro, but without a TouchBar, they will get at least $2,500 from me. If one of these major launches is an iPhone X-like phone with a thumbprint reader (home button or otherwise), they will get at least another $1,000 from me.

I don’t even mind the touchbar. Just give me back the Escape key!

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

#143

Post by threeseed »

dkarl wrote: post #116
mythz wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was an early adopter of iPhone X and the following year with XS Max, from my experience any unfamiliarity with FaceID is extremely short-lived, I wouldn't go back to a home button which feels archaic at this point and unnecessarily takes up valuable real-estate that should go towards a larger screen. The gestures also become fluid and second nature after a while. Even the next Pixel4 is moving to using FaceID, goin…

I like the gestures, but the unpredictability of when FaceID is going to work is maddening. Sometimes it works with sunglasses, sometimes not. Sometimes it works in the dim light of my bedroom, sometimes not. Sometimes it works when I absolutely don't expect it (half my face hidden in my pillow, towel wrapped around my face, complete darkness with face illuminated only by my lock screen) which only fools me into half…

TouchID fails because of a wet or dirty thumb.

FaceID fails when your face is not fully visible.

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

#144

Post by rimliu »

gonational wrote: post #121
MaysonL wrote: post #8

And the stock increased over 4% in after-hours trading, as increases in non-iPhone hardware sales and services overcame the decrease in iPhone sales. Earnings per share slightly beat the consensus forecast. An interesting quote from Cook in the press release: "The balance of calendar 2019 will be an exciting period, with major launches on all of our platforms, new services and several new products"

If one of these major launches is a MacBook Pro with the same (or better) specs (esp video graphics) as their latest MacBook Pro, but without a TouchBar, they will get at least $2,500 from me. If one of these major launches is an iPhone X-like phone with a thumbprint reader (home button or otherwise), they will get at least another $1,000 from me.

I could not care less about touch bar either way, but I would not willingly go back to touch id from face id.

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

#145

Post by zaptheimpaler »

vannevar wrote: post #120
zepto wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ignoring the Apple Watch, which dominates the category and is a clear success.

Fair, but the Apple Watch has largely been an iPhone accessory rather than a standalone product. You could also point to AirPods. They sold a lot of them because a lot of people had iPhones. But neither is anything like the iPhone or the Mac in terms of defining a product category. Eventually, the Apple Watch is just going to be an iPhone on your wrist. More of a derivative, like the iPad.

The iPhone is a product that completely transformed the world and defines what a smartphone is. There are 3 billion of them so almost half the world owns a smartphone.

If your bar for "innovative" is seriously that incredibly high, prepare to be disappointed..

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by hanniabu »

noncoml wrote: post #142
gonational wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If one of these major launches is a MacBook Pro with the same (or better) specs (esp video graphics) as their latest MacBook Pro, but without a TouchBar, they will get at least $2,500 from me. If one of these major launches is an iPhone X-like phone with a thumbprint reader (home button or otherwise), they will get at least another $1,000 from me.

I don’t even mind the touchbar. Just give me back the Escape key!

They removed the escape key? What the.....

I'm never going to retire my 2013 MBP at this rate.

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by dzader »

buzzerbetrayed wrote: post #46
liberte82 wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

iPod iPhone no disk drive UNIX-based OS goes mainstream first mainstream OS with a GUI iMac - making PC's 'friendly' iTunes - made it cool to pay for music again To name a few.

I'm not sure how "no disk drive" disrupted the industry more than Airpods and Apple Watch.

then maybe don't comment here?

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by koolba »

noncoml wrote: post #142
gonational wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If one of these major launches is a MacBook Pro with the same (or better) specs (esp video graphics) as their latest MacBook Pro, but without a TouchBar, they will get at least $2,500 from me. If one of these major launches is an iPhone X-like phone with a thumbprint reader (home button or otherwise), they will get at least another $1,000 from me.

I don’t even mind the touchbar. Just give me back the Escape key!

I thought this was a joke as I haven’t used a recent Mac in a while but apparently it’s not. There really isn’t an escape key!

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207358

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

#149

Post by w-ll »

rimliu wrote: post #144
gonational wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If one of these major launches is a MacBook Pro with the same (or better) specs (esp video graphics) as their latest MacBook Pro, but without a TouchBar, they will get at least $2,500 from me. If one of these major launches is an iPhone X-like phone with a thumbprint reader (home button or otherwise), they will get at least another $1,000 from me.

I could not care less about touch bar either way, but I would not willingly go back to touch id from face id.

Adding touch id doesn't require the removal of face id.

I like to be able to unlock my phone when it's flat on my desk without picking it up.

Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

#150

Post by rimliu »

dkarl wrote: post #116
mythz wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was an early adopter of iPhone X and the following year with XS Max, from my experience any unfamiliarity with FaceID is extremely short-lived, I wouldn't go back to a home button which feels archaic at this point and unnecessarily takes up valuable real-estate that should go towards a larger screen. The gestures also become fluid and second nature after a while. Even the next Pixel4 is moving to using FaceID, goin…

I like the gestures, but the unpredictability of when FaceID is going to work is maddening. Sometimes it works with sunglasses, sometimes not. Sometimes it works in the dim light of my bedroom, sometimes not. Sometimes it works when I absolutely don't expect it (half my face hidden in my pillow, towel wrapped around my face, complete darkness with face illuminated only by my lock screen) which only fools me into half…

Face ID does not need light to work. It projects its own grid of IR dots.
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