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> it's a real hacker's port, dammit! Oh yeah, the i2c interface disguised as DDC is my favorite part. With a few wires, you can interface any i2c eeprom with command-line tools. But projectors, oh yeah, I hear ya. VGA came out in 1987 and rapidly became ubiquitous. I think the Intel Skylake in 2015 finally shipped without integrated VGA, that's as clear a mark as you'll find for the closing of a chapter. And the cool…

Bah. VGA needs to die. The number of times I needed to do a presentation and find out they only have a VGA projector....for a product with a GUI that just is not designed for that low resolution (on purpose.) To be honest I do not think I own anything that is not 4K anymore that is a daily use item. I still have retro computers, etc. but every TV, monitor and modem system is now 4K.

The majority of projectors in use (even if they do have HDMI) don't support 4K. Even if you buy a new projector you have to put some effort into getting something that supports 4K (unlike say a TV where it's basically standard). I imagine there are even newly built conference rooms / lecture theatres that don't have 4K projectors for cost reasons.

Oh and then you need a laptop that supports it. If you laptop is more than a few years old, it probably can't output 4K60.

Re: VAIO announces tiny laptop with tons of ports

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What are the practical and functional use cases that benefit from a clit mouse vs, say, a trackpad? Genuine question, I've seen them on older laptops but I always assumed they were purely vestigial from a time when trackpads were no good. Also, mandatory: in Russia, clit mouse is blue .

> Also, mandatory: in Russia, clit mouse is blue.

So is the one on my work machine, which is a DELL, so...

Re: VAIO announces tiny laptop with tons of ports

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post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bah. VGA needs to die. The number of times I needed to do a presentation and find out they only have a VGA projector....for a product with a GUI that just is not designed for that low resolution (on purpose.) To be honest I do not think I own anything that is not 4K anymore that is a daily use item. I still have retro computers, etc. but every TV, monitor and modem system is now 4K.

The majority of projectors in use (even if they do have HDMI) don't support 4K. Even if you buy a new projector you have to put some effort into getting something that supports 4K (unlike say a TV where it's basically standard). I imagine there are even newly built conference rooms / lecture theatres that don't have 4K projectors for cost reasons. Oh and then you need a laptop that supports it. If you laptop is more…

Sorry, I mixed two items here. Projectors need to take HDMI and support 1080P. Instead half the time I get handed a VGA cable and stuck at 1024x768 or worse 800x600 I should have separated the two rants. :)

Re: VAIO announces tiny laptop with tons of ports

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I'm surprised it only has a single USB-C port (and possibly then only for charging?). I too am generally annoyed by port proliferation (and appreciate having at least one USB-A port!), but I've already started embracing USB-C for things, so this laptop's setup would be a step back for me.

Re: VAIO announces tiny laptop with tons of ports

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Half the comments seem to be surprised by VGA. But just about every 1080p monitor has the port, and even Steam statistics[0] show that over 60% of their users use 1080p, and about 75 percent use resolutions that are VGA compatible. 4K computer monitors are still uncommon - and Steam is likely tilted towards higher resolutions. In short: Most existing monitors support VGA, and probably a good deal of those actually us…

And of course there are still a lot of VGA-only projectors out there (especially the ceiling mounted ones in meeting rooms) - having a VGA port is a godsend when you come across them!

KVM switches are also a pain point - there are still many VGA-only KVMs which can get pricey to replace. It's probably not a problem for the laptop use case but it is for the home-lab setup.

Re: VAIO announces tiny laptop with tons of ports

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post #119

Half the comments seem to be surprised by VGA. But just about every 1080p monitor has the port, and even Steam statistics[0] show that over 60% of their users use 1080p, and about 75 percent use resolutions that are VGA compatible. 4K computer monitors are still uncommon - and Steam is likely tilted towards higher resolutions. In short: Most existing monitors support VGA, and probably a good deal of those actually us…

Mostly useful for projectors. Handy for conferences

Re: VAIO announces tiny laptop with tons of ports

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It's pretty funny how this has basically the same ports (besides the USB C for charging) as my 2010 VAIO Z. VGA is the most surprising one to still see. I wonder what the reasoning behind that is. I can't really see them targeting the corporate market.

VGA is incredible to have, yes, even in 2019. As a sibling comment says, it's "for the people who actually have to solve problems". Nearly all projectors, even new and expensive ones I've used, do not have HDMI. So there's an adapter. But maybe the damned fragile thing is broken, or it's missing, or it doesn't adapt to what you have (mini display port? USB-C? Who even knows!) or it requires power, or God knows what.…

Add to that the software support issues. So many times the adapter will disconnect/ make weird colors / refuse to set the right resolution etc. Reminds me how many times i lended my thinkpad because “the adapter doesnt work”

Re: VAIO announces tiny laptop with tons of ports

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Can we install OSX on it? Will pay good money for that

You can install OSX on most intel based laptops, getting the drivers for certain things can be a pain. For wifi and bluetooth you may need to replace the internal card.

Sure I get all that -- my comment was that if someone made an easy to use alternative with OSX on this machine (basically buy it and it works, simple Hackintosh), there's likely a good market for that.

Anecdotally, I'd pay essentially up to what I'd fork out for a Macbook Pro now. It just needs to work, the way Apple stuff works, without any headaches. The problem with Apple machines for me now is that they've done all these silly reductions in features that actively hurt my convenient use of it.

Edit, to clarify, I'm talking about a legit copy of OSX purchased properly, no piracy whatsoever. I just want the creature comforts of OSX on a machine with ports! (and MagSafe too, if possible)

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