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Re: Twitter was down

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Post by djtriptych »

rossdavidh wrote: post #100

Ok, this is too many high-profile, apparently unrelated outages in the last month to be completely a coincidence. Hypotheses: 1) software complexity is escalating over time, and logically will continue to until something makes it stop. It has now reached the point where even large companies cannot maintain high reliability. 2) internet volume is continually increasing over time, and periodically we hit a point where…

I've been suspecting 3) for a few months now, and I'm quite curious how our government would handle it if it _were_ the case. Only a few of these outages have had plausible post-mortems ever made public.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by idlewords »

100100010001 wrote: post #128
idlewords wrote: post #82

So storytime! I worked at Twitter as a contractor in 2008 (my job was to make internal hockey-stick graphs of usage to impress investors) during the Fail Whale era. The site would go down pretty much daily, and every time the ops team brought it back up, Twitter's VCs would send over a few bottles of really fancy imported Belgian beer (the kind with elaborate wire bottle caps that tell you it's expensive). I would in…

Hero? You’re a villain who steps on teammates. The worst part is you thought it’d be okay to share that and think we’d be on your side. Have you no shame?

My job was to make growth graphs for investor slide decks, so by definition I had no shame.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by rossdavidh »

idlewords wrote: post #105
rossdavidh wrote: post #100

Ok, this is too many high-profile, apparently unrelated outages in the last month to be completely a coincidence. Hypotheses: 1) software complexity is escalating over time, and logically will continue to until something makes it stop. It has now reached the point where even large companies cannot maintain high reliability. 2) internet volume is continually increasing over time, and periodically we hit a point where…

Write a script to fire random events and you will notice they sometimes cluster in ways that look like a pattern.

You know, it would be cool if you found stats on the downtime metrics of these various high-profile recent outages, and calculated the odds of having such a cluster. Statistics is hard, though, and avoiding a "Texas Bulls-eye" would be hard.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by depr »

rossdavidh wrote: post #100

Ok, this is too many high-profile, apparently unrelated outages in the last month to be completely a coincidence. Hypotheses: 1) software complexity is escalating over time, and logically will continue to until something makes it stop. It has now reached the point where even large companies cannot maintain high reliability. 2) internet volume is continually increasing over time, and periodically we hit a point where…

so like all software has reached peak complexity this month?

Re: Twitter was down

#145

Post by 100100010001 »

idlewords wrote: post #114
dubcanada wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I would intercept these rewards and put them in my backpack for the bus ride home, in order to avoid creating perverse incentives for the operations team. But did anyone call me 'hero'?" Wait so you stole rewards for a team that was spending time (I assume extra or stressful) on something you didn't do or have any part in. And you want a cookie? I mean I get it, the company was probably not great in it's infancy. Bu…

I don't want a cookie; I want more $24/bottle Belgian beer.

Agreed! Every selfish prick should take whatever they want even if it’s not theirs.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by [deleted] »

100100010001 wrote: post #128
idlewords wrote: post #82

So storytime! I worked at Twitter as a contractor in 2008 (my job was to make internal hockey-stick graphs of usage to impress investors) during the Fail Whale era. The site would go down pretty much daily, and every time the ops team brought it back up, Twitter's VCs would send over a few bottles of really fancy imported Belgian beer (the kind with elaborate wire bottle caps that tell you it's expensive). I would in…

Hero? You’re a villain who steps on teammates. The worst part is you thought it’d be okay to share that and think we’d be on your side. Have you no shame?

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Re: Twitter was down

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Post by AznHisoka »

I did notice something strange a few days ago. If you ran a search on Twitter, and scrolled down, it would mysteriously stop showing tweets past a certain time (July 1st, in my case). I wasn't sure if this was an internal change, or a bug of some sort. Maybe this is unrelated to the outage but strange coincidence.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by organsnyder »

squarefoot wrote: post #109
0xFFFE wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I share your sentiment to a certain extent, but I believe Twitter is a necessary evil. There should be an alternative to main stream media for people.

Sadly, for most people Twitter is mainstream media.

To be fair, many (most?) mainstream journalists are extremely active on Twitter.

Re: Twitter was down

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Post by vorpalhex »

100100010001 wrote: post #128
idlewords wrote: post #82

So storytime! I worked at Twitter as a contractor in 2008 (my job was to make internal hockey-stick graphs of usage to impress investors) during the Fail Whale era. The site would go down pretty much daily, and every time the ops team brought it back up, Twitter's VCs would send over a few bottles of really fancy imported Belgian beer (the kind with elaborate wire bottle caps that tell you it's expensive). I would in…

Hero? You’re a villain who steps on teammates. The worst part is you thought it’d be okay to share that and think we’d be on your side. Have you no shame?

Please take a moment to reboot your sarcasm detector and unplug from the internet for a minute. Maybe go outside, go for a nice walk, have a glass of water, pet a dog?
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