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Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by apexalpha »

jki275 wrote: post #124
dvdbloc wrote: post #56

So a couple of the comments here have been mentioning the high pay of people with specialties like this in the context of LM and other defense contractors. My impression from Glassdoor and general conversation with software developers has been the DCs pay pretty low for software in general compared to FAANG or even other engineering companies. Is it true that people with obscure specialties at places like LM can comm…

Defense contractors don't pay FAANG salaries. They can't, in general, because they're bound by labor categories and salaries set by the government, and the government isn't paying software engineers above what their GS software engineers get (max of about 128k in the DC area in general, if you're curious). There are a few jobs that can go a bit higher, but even they are capped around 150k as I recall. I don't know wh…

>Defense contractors don't pay FAANG salaries.

This is also a self asnwering question of sorts. If, let's say Lockheed would pay 'FAANG' salaries then it would be 'FLAANG' since the abbreviation is meant to encompass the top paying salaries.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by ProxCoques »

jessaustin wrote: post #92
ProxCoques wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know it's kinda trivial, but I strongly agree with this. For example, inheriting a set of Word/Google docs where all the formatting is applied locally without the use of styles. So I can't turn on the outliner or generate a table of contents. Or not including a proper footer with page numbers in n/nn format so that if I print them out and drop them I know how to put them back together. Or having decent metadata in…

Who's more likely to know (or be able to figure out, in 3.5 minutes) how to use Word text styles? The candidate who has room in the "skills" section for MS-Word, or the candidate who has actual skills to list?

Yeah - you're right. Well, assuming they have the motivation to know why they need to use styles in the first place.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by sesteel »

jki275 wrote: post #124
dvdbloc wrote: post #56

So a couple of the comments here have been mentioning the high pay of people with specialties like this in the context of LM and other defense contractors. My impression from Glassdoor and general conversation with software developers has been the DCs pay pretty low for software in general compared to FAANG or even other engineering companies. Is it true that people with obscure specialties at places like LM can comm…

Defense contractors don't pay FAANG salaries. They can't, in general, because they're bound by labor categories and salaries set by the government, and the government isn't paying software engineers above what their GS software engineers get (max of about 128k in the DC area in general, if you're curious). There are a few jobs that can go a bit higher, but even they are capped around 150k as I recall. I don't know wh…

Defense contractors set their own payscales but also compete on price. I know software engineers right now earning north of 150K. Also, overtime is paid and billed in defense. Thus, if you do work overtime, your defense contractor wants to bill it and you get paid for it. My first year out of school I made nearly 100K on a 67K salary because of billed overtime. This was in 2003.

There is also the fact that finding ways to get more ads in front of people is not inherently motivating for some engineers when compared to building space systems or solving other interesting problems like deconflicting telescope laser alignment with satellite orbits.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by oldsklgdfth »

vaxman wrote: post #138
oldsklgdfth wrote: post #118

I had a job maintaining fortran code on an openVMS OS running on itanium hardware. Itanium was intel's failed attempt at a 64bit architecture and that's the platform VMS decided to port to. That made hardware expensive and as of recently obsolete (i think hp discontinued that integrity line of servers) VMS doesn't natively support TCP/IP, because it predates it. The VMS communication protocol was called decnet. So yo…

That's outrageous... 1. RE: FORTRAN. VAX FORTRAN was the most awesome implementation of FORTRAN ever. FORTRAN because these systems didn't have much RAM and CPU power was limited. FORTRAN went into the background for a while when the C fad began in the early 1980s; however, academics cringed at C for reasons that the industry would eventually learn "the hard way" and FORTRAN came back along with a government knee-jer…

You sound a lot like some of the people I worked with, hey Tim :).

1. The codebase that I was working on was not awesome, it was a mix of Fortran (while i am a fan of and would much rather use that than C for scientific code) and DCL. Lots of stuff that was clearly a design afterthought, but with decades of momentum and an attitude of "just keep it working"

2. There's a lot of history in VMS, but unfortunately it's primarily used to support legacy projects, and with intel not making anymore itanium doesn't seem like there is a future. I couldn't even get a working version of the netbeans plugin to work with it. Basically I got the plugin with no support, despite having a service contract, because there was no engineering supporting fixes.

3. Could have been that the way we wrote out networking was a mess, but I do believe that TCP/IP was an add-on feature that was not part of the kernel.

4. That statement was exclusive to the people i worked with. They were not CS guys, they were support people that had enough experience with the system to get a spot in engineering. They knew how "that" system worked, but not how to solve problems without relying on legacy code that was based on obsolete ideas. I shit you not there were delays in the code because the network was "too fast" and the process couldn't handle it.

5. Solaris is the bomb too.

Take a chill pill, boo

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by dougmwne »

anyfoo wrote: post #23
butteroverflow wrote: post #20

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I guess storing all those 1's also adds some weight. It costs on the order of antimatter if you think of it. What's it like, $50 million per 1 billionth of a gram, or so?

The only storage medium I can spontaneously think of where 1s are heavier than 0s is punch cards. I hope that is not the current primary storage method in the aerospace industry.

Is there any kind of energy, (and thus mass) associated with the decreased entropy of structured data files on a data storage device vs random noise? I don't recall the thermodynamics of data storage being covered during my college physics class.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by phkahler »

throw0101a wrote: post #123
anyfoo wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only storage medium I can spontaneously think of where 1s are heavier than 0s is punch cards. I hope that is not the current primary storage method in the aerospace industry.

> punch cards Is hanging chad a 0 or a 1?

They're in superposition.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by mikeash »

hestefisk wrote: post #81
nabla9 wrote: post #73

Modern is relative. F-22's first flight was 1997. F-35 development started in 1992, first flight of X-35 was 2000 and F-35's first flight was 2006. There is absolutely noting wrong with using old technology. Being modern just for the sake of being modern is wasteful.

No Microservices, no Kubernetes. Lame.

    require(‘left-stick’)

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by ineedasername »

butteroverflow wrote: post #20
stickfigure wrote: post #8

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Wow. Reminds me of a joke my dad repeated to me many years ago: Software saved the aerospace industry. Every other way of adding cost to an airplane also adds weight. He spent most of his career at Lockheed and Rockwell.

I guess storing all those 1's also adds some weight. It costs on the order of antimatter if you think of it. What's it like, $50 million per 1 billionth of a gram, or so?

This is why I always advocate for the use of specialized negative binary using 0 and -1 for weight-sensitive embedded products. For optimum weight characteristics you flip all unused storage space to -1. Careful though, too much empty space formated this way will result in negative gravitational pull and something like an Arduino with a high capacity SD card will float away.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by inetsee »

I worked for Lockheed Martin for more than a decade and I have many of the qualifications listed, including VAX experience and a special access clearance. Of course, Lockheed laid me off fourteen years ago and I retired three years ago, so I guess I won't be applying.

Re: Lockheed has an opening for engineers with VAX experience for the F22

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Post by mikeash »

devonkim wrote: post #128
akiselev wrote: post #112

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ECC doesn't help when you have an EMP caused by an atmospheric nuclear detonation. Those are the kinds of things the design has to consider.

Makes me why we don’t count NASA under DoD similar to DARPA to help with their funding.

NASA exists to be the civilian side of the US’s aerospace ventures. The military side is the Air Force.
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