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Post by leetcrew »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #138
leetcrew wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

in case your curious, "deregulate" is not really an oxymoron. the "de-" prefix usually means something like "remove" or "undo". it just means to remove or relax some existing rules. don't feel bad though, English vocab can be tricky for native speakers too. for example, "in-" usually means "not", like "indestructible" means "can't be destroyed", but "inflammable" and "flammable" mean the same thing...

But in this case it actually sounds like more regulation, rather than less.

ah, I see what you mean.

net neutrality certainly implies more regulation, but at a local level the monopolies/duopolies are often propped up by regulations.

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Post by codezero »

Can we talk about the fact that in the US you are granted no right to privacy in public spaces? I don’t think this is universally good. Companies have used this fact to build databases of license plate locations and much more. Our anger shouldn’t primarily be directed at Amazon, but rather at the acceptance of public surveillance.

Hopefully, events like this help bring more light to this kind of blanket acceptance.

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Post by jliptzin »

discreditable wrote: post #87
paulgb wrote: post #24

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In some states (including NY and CA) electricity is partially deregulated so you can choose from different providers, even though it all goes through the same grid. There are actually sales people who go door to door or set up booths to encourage people to switch, usually pitching it as cleaner energy and/or cost-saving.

These guys are a big part of why I rarely answer my door anymore.

I never open the door unless it is for someone I am expecting, no exceptions whatsoever. It is a textbook case of something that has marginal upside and unlimited downside.

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Post by madengr »

CamperBob2 wrote: post #140
madengr wrote: post #135

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Spread spectrum still has limitations. The more codes you add just brings up the noise floor for everyone else.

What is this "noise floor" you speak of? https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/49yuwx/til_gp... The whole idea behind SS and UWB techniques is that the noise floor is under your control, rather than Boltzmann's.

You would need PRN codes with zero cross-correlation; no such thing. So when you add more users, they appear as noise in your de-spread bandwidth. Add more users, your noise floor goes up, degrading your SNR.

There are optimum codes to use, such and Gold (GPS) and Walsh (IS-95 CDMA), but they still have non-zero cross-correlation, so your users are limited. Still no free lunch.

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Post by throwawayatty »

geggam wrote: post #139
throwawayatty wrote: post #128

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> Most states do have no trespassing signs on the rights of ways though. No, no they don't. Private property does; and controlled-access highways do; but definitely not ordinary public highways.

The Illinois State Police can confirm that on August 11, 2018, Mr. David Weaver was arrested by the ISP and cited for the following offenses at the scene of a multi vehicle personal injury crash that resulted in multi vehicle fires: Criminal Trespass to Real Property, Failure to Yield to Emergency Vehicles, Stopping Parking or Standing on Roadway, and Walking Improperly on the roadway. This case remains open and ongo…

Indeed, it is unlawful to walk on a controlled-access highway, as was the case here (Interstate 88).

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Post by objectivetruth »

geggam wrote: post #139
throwawayatty wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Most states do have no trespassing signs on the rights of ways though. No, no they don't. Private property does; and controlled-access highways do; but definitely not ordinary public highways.

The Illinois State Police can confirm that on August 11, 2018, Mr. David Weaver was arrested by the ISP and cited for the following offenses at the scene of a multi vehicle personal injury crash that resulted in multi vehicle fires: Criminal Trespass to Real Property, Failure to Yield to Emergency Vehicles, Stopping Parking or Standing on Roadway, and Walking Improperly on the roadway. This case remains open and ongo…

So, I-88 is a controlled-access interstate highway, and the parent poster above you acknowledged that pedestrians are not allowed on those (at least in Illinois). THAT is what the italicized charge is for.

The parent is correct in that pedestrians ARE allowed alongside an "ordinary public highway" like IL-29 or a county highway.

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Post by mindslight »

throwawayatty wrote: post #111
geggam wrote: post #84

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Given the fact the constitution limits the govt and not the people. Given the fact the constitution says the govt cannot limit the freedom of movement. The govt cannot make laws limiting freedom of movement regardless of the method as they were not given that right by the constitution. Therefore driving as a form of movement cannot be regulated. There are also precedents discussing it Thompson v.Smith, 154 SE 579, 11…

There's a pretty wide gap between what you think is Constitutional and what U.S. courts think. Virginia law notwithstanding, elsewhere in the U.S., driving is not a right and never has been. Per U.S. Supreme Court law, freedom to travel includes the freedom to cross state lines, but that right does not extend to any particular mode of travel. You're free to walk, but not necessarily to drive or fly (notwithstanding 4…

> There's a pretty wide gap between what you think is Constitutional and what U.S. courts think.

This is often brought out as if to imply that the courts are correct. But why wouldn't government courts tend to malinterpret the Constitution in favor of the government?

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Post by mindslight »

throwawayatty wrote: post #146
geggam wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Illinois State Police can confirm that on August 11, 2018, Mr. David Weaver was arrested by the ISP and cited for the following offenses at the scene of a multi vehicle personal injury crash that resulted in multi vehicle fires: Criminal Trespass to Real Property, Failure to Yield to Emergency Vehicles, Stopping Parking or Standing on Roadway, and Walking Improperly on the roadway. This case remains open and ongo…

Indeed, it is unlawful to walk on a controlled-access highway, as was the case here (Interstate 88).

The linked article has a photo that shows many people walking on that controlled access highway, many right in the middle. Were they all arrested?

It's orthogonal to the general right to travel freely, but the story does demonstrate how overly broad procedural laws end up being selectively and inappropriately enforced to persecute under the color of law.

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