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Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by holoduke » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 3:56 PM UTC

banachtarski wrote: post #53

Timucin wrote: post #18

> Twitter just went the easy route and blocked all jsfiddle.net links instead of blocking spammer accounts on their platform. This is a huge problem with all the tech giants that needs to be addressed. I don't expect them to be perfect but I expect them to be open to communications on any level. I also think Twitter is the Twitter today just because of the bots and fake accounts they have since those accounts were cr…

I just don't agree with this sentiment. I don't work for twitter or any social media company, but it strikes me as their prerogative to ban content deemed unsafe if they don't have the means or wherewithal to properly police the content. From an engineering standpoint, how exactly do you propose to scan fiddles for objectionable content. With an image link, you could throw a neural net at it and at least tag it as ns…

It is a problem. YouTube throwing off content makers. Facebook banning campaigns. playstore banning Dev accounts. iOS store banning apps. Google search removing search results. Twitter banning people. In a lot these cases the businesses and people behind these are victim without ever doing something wrong. Bad or no communication is something they have to deal with. Yes, in a lot of cases there is a justified reason. But the good should not suffer from the bad. And that is what's happening right now. Same with this Twitter link ban.

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by taivare » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 3:56 PM UTC

paulgb wrote: post #82

codedokode wrote: post #11

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I don't understand how posting a "wallet code" is dangerous. Is it mining coins while you are browsing the code? Then it just a minor annoyance. Also, browsers should block cryptominers when they are in the background tab.

I don’t think it’s mining code, I think it’s wallet addresses posted by scammers. Here’s an example of the scam I think this is intended to curb: https://s3.amazonaws.com/aws-website-staticfiles-25g9k/elon_...

Paul is your Resume template open sourced anywhere , I like that time-line style?

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by gmanley » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:02 PM UTC

sfkdjf9j3j wrote: post #129

_pmf_ wrote: post #98

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> From my perspective it is just bots, "influencers", and propaganda. That's completely up to you; you need to create your own bubble (for better or worse). What I find bad is that there's no "circles" concept (both incoming and outgoing). While the "incoming" part is not a problem for me, the "outgoing" part is (example: posting slightly conservative views will cause tech snowflakes among your followers to be upset;…

Avoiding deliberately inflammatory alt-right language like "snowflake" would probably go a long way in getting people to engage in good faith with you, for whatever that's worth.

That phrase has a long history of use way before alt-right was even a thing. I've never heard of it being co-opted by any particular group. Other than in extreme cases, that's just not how words work. Just because one group uses a word doesn't mean it's taken out of the lexicon for everyone else. In fact, I think you are giving a group unneeded power by suddenly categorizing certain words as their language that should only be used by them.

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by dang » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:12 PM UTC

solarkraft wrote: post #103

hu3 wrote: post #79

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The backlash from banning GitHub links would be magnitudes larger than JSFiddle.

Yeah, but does Twitter care what its users think?

Please don't post unsubstantive comments or shallow dismissals here.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by snug » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:15 PM UTC

Timucin wrote: post #18

> Twitter just went the easy route and blocked all jsfiddle.net links instead of blocking spammer accounts on their platform. This is a huge problem with all the tech giants that needs to be addressed. I don't expect them to be perfect but I expect them to be open to communications on any level. I also think Twitter is the Twitter today just because of the bots and fake accounts they have since those accounts were cr…

It doesn't even look like it's blocked, you just get a interstitial page warning. I think this was their best route. Shouldn't be up to tech companies to build logic for each site that can't get a handle on their users content. Twitter can barely do it themselves

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by parliament32 » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:16 PM UTC

holtalanm wrote: post #116

paulgb wrote: post #82

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I don’t think it’s mining code, I think it’s wallet addresses posted by scammers. Here’s an example of the scam I think this is intended to curb: https://s3.amazonaws.com/aws-website-staticfiles-25g9k/elon_...

holy shit Jita scammers have come out into the real world now. "send me 1,000 isk and i'll send you 2,000 isk back!"

Oldest scam in the book. o7

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by mikeash » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:18 PM UTC

MasterScrat wrote: post #92

paulgb wrote: post #82

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I don’t think it’s mining code, I think it’s wallet addresses posted by scammers. Here’s an example of the scam I think this is intended to curb: https://s3.amazonaws.com/aws-website-staticfiles-25g9k/elon_...

I don't understand how someone could be tech-savvy enough to know about ETH and actually own some, while at the same time falling for such scams.

Avoiding scams requires being people-savvy. Tech-savvy is unrelated.

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by luu » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:26 PM UTC

dmix wrote: post #138

stevekemp wrote: post #26

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From your perspective it is just bots, "influencers", and propaganda. From my perspective it's the everyday chat of my friends, and interesting security-researchers posting their findings. It's also a randomly acquired group of people I follow to improve my ability to read the Finnish language.

> From my perspective it's the everyday chat of my friends, and interesting security-researchers posting their findings. I wish this was true. I’ve struggled for years to keep my feed about the tech topics I’m interested in. Twitter keeps making that harder and harder. Now twitter force feeds every viral anti-Trump or political outrage tweet, liked by some random user I followed 4yrs ago, into my main feed. Their ins…

> I hope Twitter makes a ‘retro’ mode where I can just see the actual tweets of only the people I follow in semi-chronological order. With the option to turn off retweets for certain users.

I think both of these exist? There's a way to turn off retweets for particular users (it's in the same menu you'd use to mute or block someone) and there's an option to show a plain timeline (uncheck "show the best tweets first").

The plain timeline option doesn't seem to consistently work on the mobile app, but many (most? all?) alternative Twitter clients show you the plain timeline.

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by MagicPropmaker » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:31 PM UTC

MasterScrat wrote: post #92

paulgb wrote: post #82

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I don’t think it’s mining code, I think it’s wallet addresses posted by scammers. Here’s an example of the scam I think this is intended to curb: https://s3.amazonaws.com/aws-website-staticfiles-25g9k/elon_...

I don't understand how someone could be tech-savvy enough to know about ETH and actually own some, while at the same time falling for such scams.

I saw one of those fake Elon Musk posts in my stream and my first thought was "Wow! Is Elon pushing shady blockchain money things now?" It wasn't until a few seconds later that I realized there was no blue-check and it wasn't him....

Re: Twitter is rejecting posts containing JSFiddle URLs

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Post by themacguffinman » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:42 PM UTC

vanderZwan wrote: post #59

skrebbel wrote: post #52

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Twitter doesn't exactly target the kind of demographic that understands what "to run crypto mining scripts" even means, let alone how to assess whether they "trust the source". I mean, it was retweeted by someone I follow and it has a funny picture of Trump with a dancing turd emoji on his head, what's there not to trust? It's extremely hard to coach non-technical users into making the right call when presented with…

> It's extremely hard to coach non-technical users into making the right call when presented with a security warning box. And not presenting them with any call at all is guaranteed to keep them non-technical. We have to take the training wheels off at some point.

And it's Twitter's job to train them?