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Hollywood studios say they’re quitting Netflix – the truth is more complicated

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Post by jsmeaton »

zaarn wrote: post #101
jsmeaton wrote: post #99

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Setting up sonarr and radarr is not trivial, especially if you’re hooking it up to Usenet. I spend a couple of hours every year repairing the setup after the NAS has updated the mono version. Finding the right Usenet server and the correct alternative block accounts, and then just the right search provider. Ugh. But it’s magical once everything is setup.

It's not actually that complicated. There are templates that let you deploy both in a single click on a webinterface. You can use free crawlers for content out of the box. Various usenet providers provide you with picture-by-picture guides on how to setup Sonarr and Radarr. There are single-click Usenet and Torrent clients with VPN integration. Just upload the ovpn file as provided by your VPN provider and you're don…

Free crawlers barely work.

Unless you have a block account on a separate network, most files you download will have missing articles.

Most articles are out of date and slightly wrong. Having to piece together bits from various places.

Single click installers are good when they work for your platform. For most people I agree that’ll be fine. On some NAS boxes, totally not.

Do you use sabnz? Radarr? Sonarr? Couch Potato? What’s an API key? Auth?

For technical people it might not seem complicated. It is miles away from being approachable for a large majority of people.

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Post by simonh »

oliwarner wrote: post #131
simonh wrote: post #121

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From the data in your link [1] Cinema attendance looks very healthy, and in fact in 2018 was at it's highest level since 1971 and is more than tripple it's low point in 1984. That much better than I was expecting and frankly in my eyes kills the 'Cinema is dying' meme stone dead. I don't understand how you can be looking at the same table and coming to such a different conclusion.

I'm not saying cinema is dying, at all. I'm reacting to a statement that said "cinema is having its most successful years ever". That is only true in gross and that's only true because tickets are so expensive. If you're going to make qualitative claims, where the price of a unit is largely fixed at a point in time, I think you have to compare quantity of sales, not gross. It's all marketing wank. A way for producers…

Fair enough, thanks for the clarification, and the link to the data.

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Post by rakoo »

odiroot wrote: post #128
netwanderer3 wrote: post #74

Nobody has mentioned the real problem is that most Hollywood movies these days are recycled garbage. People are probably going to switch from Netflix over to Disney+ once it is launched. Once Netflix is gone, Disney+ would then jack up its price to $40/month. I think we have all seen this movie too many times before.

I'm disappointed with both Hollywood and Netflix. First is just unending deluge of comic book movies. Second is pretty much 90% self-produced TV series.

You can't really blame Netflix for not having access to the most popular content. I'm pretty sure they'd love to pay if it meant being authorized to distribute it.

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Post by Shivetya »

Mashimo wrote: post #114
philliphaydon wrote: post #93

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What's good on HBO? I used a VPN to subscribe to HBO and Hulu and ended up canceling it because I ended up watching more Netflix than those services...

Deadwood, Westworld, True Detectives and The Wire are some series I like. There is also Game of Thrones.

but you can just binge HBO for one month by recording it to watch at your leisure unless your of the type which must see episodes when released.

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Post by nkurz »

mprev wrote: post #76
vageli wrote: post #71

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> Whatever works for you I guess, lol. Do you consider libraries to be facilitating piracy? If not, how do Causality1's examples differ?

In the UK, at least, public libraries pay a tiny fee to the author each time the book is borrowed. We are talking pennies a year but, in terms of intent at least, it is not the same.

Interesting, as an American I'd never realized that this payment existed. Here's more info about the "Public Lending Right" in some of the countries that use it: https://www.wipo.int/wipo_magazine/en/2018/03/article_0007.h...

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Post by philliphaydon »

dmitriid wrote: post #105
philliphaydon wrote: post #92

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I don't know what Netflix is like in America but all my content is nothing but new stuff... The only thing that's "old" that shows on my "popular on Netflix" (or what ever its called) section is Friends.

I’m watching from Sweden, so that may be the reason, but my suggestions are laughably bad: https://twitter.com/dmitriid/status/1120410479954993153

https://imgur.com/a/dl4P7ag

Hope this link works. Took a while to figure out how to upload without downloading the app.

This is what I see in Singapore. Atleast on my phone. But I mostly browse the recently added or originals sections.

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Post by dillonmckay »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #129
oliwarner wrote: post #97

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I'm disappointed, but not surprised in your measurement of success. Many tout record box office takings as clear success but I rather think that really reflects on inflation (both real and artificial). Look at admissions over time. I only have UK numbers to hand [1] but despite an increasing population, we're still at barely a tenth of our 1950 numbers. MPAA stats [2] seem to show the US in decline over the last few…

A big (huge) driver is the Asian markets, with China having allowed more foreign movies in - and a huge upsurge of cinemas being built there. A lot of (blockbuster) movies are actively made nowadays with the huge Chinese market in mind, and / or are being co-produced and / or funded by Chinese companies. (There's some common tropes in that category; PG-12, if that rating, has to feature at least one major Chinese cit…

I have also noticed a decent amount of new releases have both a Chinese and American production company associated with the movie, and there appear to be cultural and character references that resonate with both.

Pretty cool.

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Post by pfisch »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #129
oliwarner wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm disappointed, but not surprised in your measurement of success. Many tout record box office takings as clear success but I rather think that really reflects on inflation (both real and artificial). Look at admissions over time. I only have UK numbers to hand [1] but despite an increasing population, we're still at barely a tenth of our 1950 numbers. MPAA stats [2] seem to show the US in decline over the last few…

A big (huge) driver is the Asian markets, with China having allowed more foreign movies in - and a huge upsurge of cinemas being built there. A lot of (blockbuster) movies are actively made nowadays with the huge Chinese market in mind, and / or are being co-produced and / or funded by Chinese companies. (There's some common tropes in that category; PG-12, if that rating, has to feature at least one major Chinese cit…

Are you saying Americans can't be the villains in blockbusters? That is definitely not correct.

None of the things you mentioned are required by the US like China requires things in its movies.

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Post by humanrebar »

odiroot wrote: post #128
netwanderer3 wrote: post #74

Nobody has mentioned the real problem is that most Hollywood movies these days are recycled garbage. People are probably going to switch from Netflix over to Disney+ once it is launched. Once Netflix is gone, Disney+ would then jack up its price to $40/month. I think we have all seen this movie too many times before.

I'm disappointed with both Hollywood and Netflix. First is just unending deluge of comic book movies. Second is pretty much 90% self-produced TV series.

> Second is pretty much 90% self-produced TV series.

There's nothing wrong with producing TV series... there's something else you don't like, right? These particular ones? Or is it the fact that they are self produced?

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Post by dillonmckay »

maeln wrote: post #94
torgian wrote: post #40

Piracy is alive and kicking in a lot of countries still, as I'm sure some of you know. Netflix is probably partially at fault for this. When I travel to different countries and pull up Netflix, I see shows available in that country that aren't available in another. It's annoying. Of course, a VPN takes care of this (to an extent).

> When I travel to different countries and pull up Netflix, I see shows available in that country that aren't available in another. It's annoying. This is, a lot of time, not Netflix fault (or only partially). Distribution contract with exclusivity clauses can have been signed before Netflix ultimately implanted in the country. It means, they cannot get the right to stream even if they wanted before X years. They als…

The majority of users don’t care about the intricacies of international IP laws.

People just want to watch a show or movie, and it is easier to travel to another country to watch something, than procuring it in one’s own country?

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