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Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display

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Post by DanBC »

marsRoverDev wrote: post #46
cjjuice wrote: post #16

I am really impressed with 18F and how the federal government has really stepped up their game on the digital/open source front. It does make me wonder though if the usage rights of these projects should be restricted to use by US taxpayers though since that is who is ultimately paying for this work.

You could say the same thing about the UK government's equivalent, which I would argue is somewhat of an influence on 18F (though I'm not an insider). They actively open source their work, this being a great example of it: https://github.com/alphagov I don't think that 18F and US taxpayers lose out on anything by open sourcing this. It builds a lot of good will and they are probably using systems that have been contr…

I like some of the NHS Digital work too. They have some interesting blogs, eg this: https://digital.nhs.uk/blog/transformation-blog/2019/icons-a...

Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display

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Post by ColossalSquid32 »

alexpetralia wrote: post #122
zestyping wrote: post #105

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Filed, and got a response right away! https://github.com/uswds/uswds/issues/3024

This is amazing. What is this - a startup?!

U.S. gov't! https://designsystem.digital.gov/

article: https://digital.gov/2019/04/08/introducing-uswds-2/

Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display

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Post by pastor_elm »

andrewshadura wrote: post #127
2bitencryption wrote: post #3

This is so interesting. These modern sites clash really hard with my mental visual of "Government technology." And it led me to this, which is maybe even more interesting: https://federalist.18f.gov/

Have you seen gov.uk?

no

Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display

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Post by freehunter »

bredren wrote: post #107
eddietejeda wrote: post #81

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Although we are part of the government, we operate as a business unit that must pay for itself to exist. To do this, we have to charge other agencies for our services. My group is "cost-recoverable," meaning, that we are longer losing money and can reinvest back into the product. You will notice our Github activity picked up recently and even more significant changes are coming soon. So, I'd say we are in the best sh…

Can you comment on what organizations are your biggest customers? Are you concerned about austerity measures / cutbacks affecting customer budgets?

>Are you concerned about austerity measures / cutbacks affecting customer budgets?

Isn't every business or organization concerned about various economic forces affecting their customer budgets?

Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display

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Post by benbristow »

carapace wrote: post #117
Someone1234 wrote: post #79

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Pages don't need a fallback to non-Javascript in 2019. Accessibility technologies now fully support a JS enabled web, with accessibility standards following suit. That leaves only those who have voluntarily disabled JavaScript ( I've worked on public facing government websites (not 18F). We simply don't support this edge case, and our legal department supports our legal right to do so (in particular in relation to AD…

As one of "those who have voluntarily disabled JavaScript" this comment is pretty disappointing.

If you disable a tool which you know is used to build many websites nowadays then you really should expect a deprecated experience. You're in the minority and honestly I don't know why you should expect web developers to cater for you.

Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display

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Post by dimgl »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #44
boterock wrote: post #20

It is sad that any nice font looks like crap with Windows font rendering.

Windows does not have crap font rendering, Windows has advanced hinting support that varies by typeface and is infinitely customizable. Other operating systems apply a global hinting that typically discards the font designer's own preferences for how the font should look (especially at smaller scales). Fonts without that manual hinting look like crap on Windows because Windows does not force through its own rendering…

It doesn't matter if Microsoft is really big on typography if it looks like garbage on Windows. I agree with the OP; most open fonts look absolutely horrible on Windows.

Re: Public Sans – A strong, neutral typeface for text or display

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Post by shaki-dora »

codetrotter wrote: post #115
dclowd9901 wrote: post #114

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Applaud us when getting FOIA requests responded to doesn’t require retaining lawyers.

We should always demand more from our governments. But we should also celebrate them for doing good. The politicians and government workers are people too, and while different people have different motivations I know that I am not alone in valuing praise from others highly. If all someone hears is complaints, I think they are probably more likely to burn out. I don’t have any source to back this claim, but it’s how I…

Indeed! If people just assume you’re corrupt, incompetent, lazy, etc: why even try?
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